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− | == Concerning files == | + | == New draft proposal concerning Translation Moderator == |
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− | I'm not sure about the current situation of files. It seems to me that they are directly uploaded to the english moepedia page, instead of shared with others language pages in moe commons. Would it be possible if we relink all files into moe commons? Many pictures on pages are unable to be shown. Eg, [[Girls' Frontline: Springfield]].
| + | All editors, please be notified a new proposal has been submitted at [[Talk:Discussion_board/Translation_moderator]], according to regulations discussions about to take place. |
| + | --<span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:11pt">[[U:Asakura_Nemu|<img src="https://img.moegirl.org.cn/common/avatars/470354/128.png?ver=1695197566" style="width: 2em;border-radius: 50%;box-shadow: 1px 1px 2px 0px rgba(11, 45, 14, 0.45);"/>Nochelux Iquinawir Illumina]]</span><span style="color:#33ffcc;font-family:consolas;font-size:8pt"> the Unexperienced Wikier</span> ([[User_talk:Asakura_Nemu|Criticize]] · Work on [[enmoe:Mainpage|EN Moegirlpedia]]) 20:10, 8 April 2024 (UTC) |
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− | Please correct me if I'm mistaken about this.
| + | Yes, I aborted this project. If we want any such regulations, I suggest that we just keep it a private agreement between us editors. Those people will never give us the right to make our own conventions. --<span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:11pt">[[U:Asakura_Nemu|<img src="https://img.moegirl.org.cn/common/avatars/470354/128.png?ver=1695197566" style="width: 2em;border-radius: 50%;box-shadow: 1px 1px 2px 0px rgba(11, 45, 14, 0.45);"/>Nochelux Iquinawir Illumina]]</span><span style="color:#33ffcc;font-family:consolas;font-size:8pt"> the Unexperienced Wikier</span> ([[User_talk:Asakura_Nemu|Criticize]] · Work on [[enmoe:Mainpage|EN Moegirlpedia]]) 14:04, 29 August 2024 (UTC) |
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− | --[[User:Asakura Nemu|Asakura Nemu]] ([[User talk:Asakura Nemu|talk]]) 10:03, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
| + | == Category page deletion == |
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− | :All files are uploading to the moe commons, you can click "View on MoeGirl Commons" button in file detail page.--[[User:KingChan|虚研社箱推人/矢志不渝Cosecant]] ([[User talk:KingChan|talk]]) 02:47, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
| + | Hello... I would like to request these pages to be deleted, please, since they're empty. These were created as I couldn't figure out a name for [[:Category:Game developers|these]] [[:Category:Japanese game developers|cate]][[:Category:American game developers|gories]]. |
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− | ::I would contend otherwise... Take File:Springfield_Private_dress.jpg as an example. It cannot be found in commons (yet, since I just uploaded it). P.S., [[Girls' Frontline: Springfield]] links to this photo (as can be seen in "File Usage") but the picture cannot be seen on the wiki page. Could you be so kind as to see if it is possible to fix it? --[[User:Asakura Nemu|Asakura Nemu]] ([[User talk:Asakura Nemu|talk]]) 03:29, 20 October 2023 (UTC) | + | [[:Category:Video game developers]]<br>[[:Category:Japanese video game developers]]<br>[[:Category:American video game developers]] [[User:LiaMinina|LiaMinina]] ([[User talk:LiaMinina|talk]]) 20:09, 31 July 2024 (UTC) |
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− | :::I can see it now. Perhaps you did not upload this file correctly, or it may be due to network latency.--[[User:KingChan|虚研社箱推人/矢志不渝Cosecant]] ([[User talk:KingChan|talk]]) 06:15, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
| + | {{MarkAsResolved|sign=[[User:KingChan|KingChan]] / Fan of [[XY Production]] 00:51, 1 August 2024 (UTC)|time=20240801|status=a|archive-offset=3|comment=}} |
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− | {{MarkAsResolved|sign=--[[User:Asakura Nemu|Asakura Nemu]] ([[User talk:Asakura Nemu|talk]]) 3:45, 23 October 2023 (UTC)|comment=Issue has already been resolved on zh discussion board. The en site will retain its separate file system but users can use commons.}}
| + | == Category page deletion (2) == |
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− | == Proposing a template for translated pages ==
| + | Can you delete this page, please? I'm reorganizing the categories within "Music". |
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− | About translated pages
| + | [[:Category:Songs]] [[User:LiaMinina|LiaMinina]] ([[User talk:LiaMinina|talk]]) 16:34, 5 August 2024 (UTC) |
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− | I've just committed a page [[Mesugaki]] <del>so that I can use it in my user page</del>. The problem now is, I suck at {{ruby|translating|English}}, and the article is barely readable, let alone coherent. So I stuck a [[Template:Langproblem]] in there.
| + | :Why? Songs are diffrent from Music.——[[User:KingChan|KingChan]] / Fan of [[XY Production]] 06:38, 8 August 2024 (UTC) |
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− | The thing here is, I don't think the template was especially designed for this. That was probably for simple language problems. So I was thinking if anyone could write a template that can be hung to demonstrate that the page was <i>directly</i> adopted from another language version.
| + | == Category page deletion (3) == |
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− | I think it could contain the following message and parameters: | + | Can you delete this category, please? I am having a hard time rearranging the categories... |
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− | * A note telling readers that the page was directly translated;
| + | [[:Category:Real-life countries]] [[User:LiaMinina|LiaMinina]] ([[User talk:LiaMinina|talk]]) 15:13, 6 August 2024 (UTC) |
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− | * Parameter: language version (choices from zh/ja), defaults zh;
| + | == Template problem == |
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− | * Parameter: (optional) extern link to original page or name of original entry
| + | [[Template:Territory_info|This template]] doesn't display well in [[Thailand|this page]]. What happened? [[User:LiaMinina|LiaMinina]] ([[User talk:LiaMinina|talk]]) 16:50, 6 September 2024 (UTC) |
| + | :The template lost a <code><nowiki>|}</nowiki></code> at the end and its new alignment is from [[T:Characterinfo]]. You may need a refreshing edit for its new look. --[[User:6116G|6116G]] ([[User talk:6116G|talk]]) 07:38, 7 September 2024 (UTC) |
| + | ::{{re|6116G}} What do you mean by "refreshing edit"? [[User:LiaMinina|LiaMinina]] ([[User talk:LiaMinina|talk]]) 20:03, 9 September 2024 (UTC) |
| + | ::: After I fixed the template it didn't show its new alignment on pages using it unless an edit is made. But if you don't meet the problem you can just ignore that term. --[[User:6116G|6116G]] ([[User talk:6116G|talk]]) 09:49, 12 September 2024 (UTC) |
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− | * Parameter: translation method (choices from 1/2/3/4), where numbers expand as follows: <br> 1->Manual <br> 2->Manual with Machine Assistance <br> 3->Machine with Manual Proofreading <br> 4->Machine <br> I think this could default to 3 or 4, but since Machine translation is not allowed defaulting to 4 might cause confusion.
| + | == About boilerplates == |
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− | * Invitation to edit page
| + | Hello. Is it possible to enable boilerplates in EnMGP? That way, it would be easier to create articles. [[User:LiaMinina|LiaMinina]] ([[User talk:LiaMinina|talk]]) 20:36, 23 September 2024 (UTC) |
| + | :Thanks for your remind by mail, but that tool is beyond my knowledge so I've no idea. --[[User:6116G|6116G]] ([[User talk:6116G|talk]]) 05:59, 1 October 2024 (UTC) |
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− | I'm not familiar with templates so I was hoping someone else would be capable of doing this.
| + | == Please move the page == |
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− | --[[User:Asakura Nemu|Asakura Nemu]] ([[User talk:Asakura Nemu|talk]]) 08:55, 21 October 2023 (UTC) | + | <s>{{tl|CADPA}} should be renamed to {{tl|CADPA rating}}--[[User:Tsuyuki2198391|Raxter]] ([[User talk:Tsuyuki2198391|talk]]) 11:55, 1 October 2024 (UTC)</s> |
| + | :Fine, I could do this myself--[[User:Tsuyuki2198391|Raxter]] ([[User talk:Tsuyuki2198391|talk]]) 15:06, 3 October 2024 (UTC) |
| + | ::Well... Could someone help me to delete the former?--[[User:Tsuyuki2198391|Raxter]] ([[User talk:Tsuyuki2198391|talk]]) 15:08, 3 October 2024 (UTC) |
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− | :Web pages whose entire content is automatically generated by a program are not allowed in [[萌娘百科:收录范围#不予收录| zhmoe]], maybe you should consider the same standards.--[[User:KingChan|KingChan]] / Fan of [[XY Production]] 02:58, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
| + | == Please add the code to [[:Module: Loop]] == |
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− | ::It appears I have not made myself clear. I ''manually'' translated this page in concern. What I'm saying is, I am not learnt in translation, and cannot ensure my translations are coherent. The meaning of this template is: the page was translated from another language, instead of being originally writen in the language of this pedia (English). Thus I am discussing the probability of creating a specific template to warn the users: this page was translated, and may have misleading language. | + | Code: |
− | ::I totally agree disallowing machine translated pages on this pedia. This is not a big problem, since we can adjust the parameters to disinclude 4. However, doing so would in fact ''encourage'' people to use 3 in the place of 4, and you can't even say they did not do anything. --[[User:Asakura Nemu|Asakura Nemu]] ([[User talk:Asakura Nemu|talk]]) 05:16, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
| + | <pre> |
| + | function module.fornumargs(frame) |
| + | local args = frame.args |
| + | local parent = frame:getParent() |
| + | local prefix = mw.text.trim(args[1] or '') |
| + | local numname = mw.text.trim(args[2] or '') |
| + | local valname = mw.text.trim(args[3] or '') |
| + | local cond = mw.text.decode(mw.text.unstripNoWiki(mw.text.trim(args.cond or ''))) |
| + | local text = mw.text.decode(mw.text.unstripNoWiki(mw.text.trim(args[4] or ''))) |
| + | if not parent or numname == '' or valname == '' or text == '' then return '' end |
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− | {{MAR|sign=[[User:Asakura Nemu|Nochelux Iquinawir Illumina]] ([[User talk:Asakura Nemu|Criticize]]) 8:36, 5 November 2023 (UTC) | time=20231105 |status=r|comment=[[User:6116G|6116G]] has already written this template. Issue resolved.}}
| + | local expr = '^' .. mw.ustring.gsub(prefix, '([-+*?%%])', '%%%1') .. '(%d+)$' |
− | | + | local keys = {} |
− | == On Categorization Policies ==
| + | local output = {} |
− | | + | for key, _ in pairs(parent.args) do |
− | On the [[https://en.moegirl.org.cn/Template:Moegirlpedia_help|Moepedia help template]], there is "Categorizing articles" in "Intermediate Editing" (which redirects to [[User:Nostalgia/Category_tree|a page]] under [[U:Nostalgia]] who is apparently blocked). So I'm dropping a note here to memo that someone has to write a policy document on categorizing.
| + | local num = mw.ustring.match(key, expr) |
− | | + | if num then |
− | A few weeks ago I rebased Category:Userbox to Category:Userboxes. So I was thinking Categories that have a noun phrase as the central part of the phrase should be in plural.
| + | table.insert(keys, tonumber(num)) |
− | | + | end |
− | I don't think zh has a Categorization policy either. Let's see if we can implement this on en first.
| + | end |
− | | + | table.sort(keys) |
− | --[[User:Asakura Nemu|Nochelux Iquinawir Illumina]] ([[User talk:Asakura Nemu|talk]]) 12:23, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
| + | for _, idx in ipairs(keys) do |
− | | + | parent:callParserFunction('#vardefine', numname, idx) |
− | The capitalization policy of categories has no coherence whatsoever. I'll give an example that I noticed.
| + | parent:callParserFunction('#vardefine', valname, parent.args[prefix .. idx]) |
− | | + | if cond == '' or parent:preprocess(cond) ~= '' then |
− | [[:Category:Pages_with_Materials_Awaiting_Translation|Category:Pages_with_Materials_Awaiting_Translation]] follows [[Help:Title_Naming_Standard/Rules_for_Capitalization|article naming standards]]. Then, it claims to have two subcats that just capitalize the first letter <i>without</i> capitalizing the proper nouns: [[:Category:Pages_with_chinese_materials_awaiting_translation|Category:Pages_with_chinese_materials_awaiting_translation]] and [[:Category:Pages_with_japanese_materials_awaiting_translation|Category:Pages_with_japanese_materials_awaiting_translation]]. But then we <i>do</i> have another category [[:Category:Pages_with_Chinese_materials_awaiting_translation|Category:Pages_with_Chinese_materials_awaiting_translation]] that <i>does</i> capitalize proper nouns.
| + | table.insert(output, parent:preprocess(text)) |
− | | + | end |
− | So we're essentially following 3 sets of capitalization methods in this simple example. It is <b><i>urgent</b></i> that we agree on <i>one</i> capitalization method. This issue was never brought up on zh or jp because they don't capitalize anyways.
| + | end |
− | | + | return table.concat(output) |
− | --[[User:Asakura Nemu|Nochelux Iquinawir Illumina]] ([[User talk:Asakura Nemu|talk]]) 08:30, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
| + | end |
− | | + | </pre> |
− | :Hi. Actually, a "category policy" or "category guidelines" page wouldn't be a bad idea. Also, I checked, and yes, unfortunately, ZhMGP doesn't have that kind of page either. So, how would that kind of policy or guideline document work? [[User:LiaMinina|LiaMinina]] ([[User talk:LiaMinina|talk]]) 20:12, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
| + | from [[zhmoe:Module:Loop|the Chinese MGP version of Loop module]].--[[User:Tsuyuki2198391|Raxter]] ([[User talk:Tsuyuki2198391|talk]]) 07:23, 11 October 2024 (UTC) |
− | | + | :Notes: I don't have rights to do so as the website will determine that I am doing something bad the server. I would appreciate if someone helps me to do so.--[[User:Tsuyuki2198391|Raxter]] ([[User talk:Tsuyuki2198391|talk]]) 14:30, 17 October 2024 (UTC) |
− | :In fact there is [[:zh:MGP:分类指引|a loose regulation on categories]] on Chinese Moegirlpedia, though a clear consensus have yet to be reached after a proposal with really mass discussions on it there.--[[User:6116G|6116G]] ([[User talk:6116G|talk]]) 09:28, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
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− | ::Not very detailed & quite idealized; I doubt there would be tens of thousands of CATs on moe zh if this regulation were really carried out. Plus, it doesn't address issues specific to EN, like pluralization and capitalization. <br>Nonetheless it would be a great place to start from; if we are to write a new guideline we'll try our best to keep it inline with this guideline. Just to ask, do you know how many votes we would need to get for such a guideline in order to send it into effect? There aren't many active editors on EN Moe; most Moe regulators don't visit this remote place that often either.--[[User:Asakura Nemu|Nochelux Iquinawir Illumina]] ([[User talk:Asakura Nemu|talk]]) 11:02, 25 November 2023 (UTC) | |
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− | :::According to regulations on [[:zh:MGP:投票方针|votes]] and [[:zh:MGP:提案|proposal]], there seems to be no limits of the least votes, only of the least administrators (including the higher-level bureaucrats) attended of 2, as well as a simple rule of votes pros-over-cons of both mass and admins to pass a proposal. However operators (so-called '''staff''' in zhmoe) of the site have been moving into a much more centralized policy since late September, thus {{spoiler|admins are now designated by operators instead of voted by mass, and }} votes of administratiors and patrollers have been doubled to 4 and 2 votes, separately. That means every single administrator holds more votes than us three. I think [[:zh:T:萌娘百科政策文件|this template]] would help you go through most policies more easily.--[[User:6116G|6116G]] ([[User talk:6116G|talk]]) 14:42, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
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− | Hello. I think that [[Africans|this article]] should be deleted since it's about a (mostly) controversial topic and people might sense "disturbing racist undertones" there. I believe Moegirlpedia should avoid getting into this type of trouble. Also, I believe that the term "{{lang|zh|非洲人}}" originated from the Chinese community and it is mostly used there, and their culture isn't the same as others, so I don't think would fit into the scope of English Moegirlpedia. Chinese Moegirlpedia covers many terms and slang that only Chinese people can understand... [[User:LiaMinina|LiaMinina]] ([[User talk:LiaMinina|talk]]) 16:24, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
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− | Hello again... I want [[Archon|this article]] to be deleted, since too much of the text is copied from [https://tvtropes.org TV Tropes] (specifically [https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OurArchonsAreDifferent these] [https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/UsefulNotes/Gnosticism pages]). I believe the Chinese version of the article (from which I made the translation) had the same problem and it was deleted as well, since I couldn't find it. When I checked the article here, I saw that my translated text was too similar to the original articles on TV Tropes. [[User:LiaMinina|LiaMinina]] ([[User talk:LiaMinina|talk]]) 15:24, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
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− | :In fact you can choose to restructure the content or write the article in a different way to avoid copyright issue (the reason Chinese version deleted), but since the page was created by you I think it's also OK to delete it. [[User:6116G|6116G]] ([[User talk:6116G|talk]]) 16:12, 16 December 2023 (UTC) | |
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All editors, please be notified a new proposal has been submitted at Talk:Discussion_board/Translation_moderator, according to regulations discussions about to take place.
--Nochelux Iquinawir Illumina the Unexperienced Wikier (Criticize · Work on EN Moegirlpedia) 20:10, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
Yes, I aborted this project. If we want any such regulations, I suggest that we just keep it a private agreement between us editors. Those people will never give us the right to make our own conventions. --Nochelux Iquinawir Illumina the Unexperienced Wikier (Criticize · Work on EN Moegirlpedia) 14:04, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
Category page deletion
Hello... I would like to request these pages to be deleted, please, since they're empty. These were created as I couldn't figure out a name for these categories.
Category:Video game developers
Category:Japanese video game developers
Category:American video game developers LiaMinina (talk) 20:09, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
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Category page deletion (2)
Can you delete this page, please? I'm reorganizing the categories within "Music".
Category:Songs LiaMinina (talk) 16:34, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Why? Songs are diffrent from Music.——KingChan / Fan of XY Production 06:38, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
Category page deletion (3)
Can you delete this category, please? I am having a hard time rearranging the categories...
Category:Real-life countries LiaMinina (talk) 15:13, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
Template problem
This template doesn't display well in this page. What happened? LiaMinina (talk) 16:50, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- The template lost a
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at the end and its new alignment is from T:Characterinfo. You may need a refreshing edit for its new look. --6116G (talk) 07:38, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
- @6116G What do you mean by "refreshing edit"? LiaMinina (talk) 20:03, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- After I fixed the template it didn't show its new alignment on pages using it unless an edit is made. But if you don't meet the problem you can just ignore that term. --6116G (talk) 09:49, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
About boilerplates
Hello. Is it possible to enable boilerplates in EnMGP? That way, it would be easier to create articles. LiaMinina (talk) 20:36, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for your remind by mail, but that tool is beyond my knowledge so I've no idea. --6116G (talk) 05:59, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
Please move the page
{{CADPA}} should be renamed to {{CADPA rating}}--Raxter (talk) 11:55, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- Fine, I could do this myself--Raxter (talk) 15:06, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- Well... Could someone help me to delete the former?--Raxter (talk) 15:08, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
Code:
function module.fornumargs(frame)
local args = frame.args
local parent = frame:getParent()
local prefix = mw.text.trim(args[1] or '')
local numname = mw.text.trim(args[2] or '')
local valname = mw.text.trim(args[3] or '')
local cond = mw.text.decode(mw.text.unstripNoWiki(mw.text.trim(args.cond or '')))
local text = mw.text.decode(mw.text.unstripNoWiki(mw.text.trim(args[4] or '')))
if not parent or numname == '' or valname == '' or text == '' then return '' end
local expr = '^' .. mw.ustring.gsub(prefix, '([-+*?%%])', '%%%1') .. '(%d+)$'
local keys = {}
local output = {}
for key, _ in pairs(parent.args) do
local num = mw.ustring.match(key, expr)
if num then
table.insert(keys, tonumber(num))
end
end
table.sort(keys)
for _, idx in ipairs(keys) do
parent:callParserFunction('#vardefine', numname, idx)
parent:callParserFunction('#vardefine', valname, parent.args[prefix .. idx])
if cond == '' or parent:preprocess(cond) ~= '' then
table.insert(output, parent:preprocess(text))
end
end
return table.concat(output)
end
from the Chinese MGP version of Loop module.--Raxter (talk) 07:23, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
- Notes: I don't have rights to do so as the website will determine that I am doing something bad the server. I would appreciate if someone helps me to do so.--Raxter (talk) 14:30, 17 October 2024 (UTC)