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From May 24, 2020 onwards, the EnMGP discussion board will be using {{MAR}}, adopted from ZhMGP. Threads from April and May 2020 were the first to transclude this template.

Note on potential site closure

As you guys might have heard, Chinese Moegirlpedia users are debating over a new Term of Use. As a part of the debate, this English Moegirlpedia (along with the Japanese site) may de closed and its data deleted.

To be fair, English Moegirlpedia might not be touched at all -- it has little influence, and the new Term of Use might not have such a big impact on it. The sad reality is, this site might be spared simply by being forgotten. But for those of us that cares deeply about our creations, this risk can be too great.

I recommend everyone to backup their contributions locally in preparation for the worst.

I will be pinging editors who made edits in the recent 90 days here: @Ktmsobs,Yumeto,Twilight200703,Pumpkin 233,HUELIJAH,全职法师骨灰级粉丝,Dahesor,Wujx3433,Ravenclaw OIer,Deldim,SeerElijah,C0perf1eld.

Hope to see you guys through this little storm!

Cheers and thoughts for EnMoe. --GYARI! GYARI! GYARI! ONE-SIX is no longer "公的驱逐舰"! Talk·Recent Edits 21:46, 21 December 2019 (CST)

Done--Ktmsobs (talk) 05:37, 8 January 2020 (CST)
Hey guys, don't worry for now, this wouldn't happen soon according to the admins. Thanks OneSix-san for the heads up though! -- Frank-san (Leave a message) 09:05, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
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Was mislead by confusions then... EnMGP will be fine for at least the foreseeable future. --COVID be gone! One-Six A.K.A."公的驱逐舰" Talk·Recent Edits 09:05, 24 May 2020 (CST)

A Translating Group

I am pretty new to EnMGP, but I found that if we could form a translating QQ group, the items would be transated faster. --RedstoneDave 02:37, 15 February 2020 (CST)

@红石小蝈 There is indeed a semi-official QQ group. The Group ID is 650556408. -- Frank-san (Leave a message)02:22, 16 May 2020 (CDT)
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Old thread. QQ group is up for a long time now. --COVID be gone! One-Six A.K.A."公的驱逐舰" Talk·Recent Edits 09:05, 24 May 2020 (CST)

About Template:NeedsTranslating and Template:Waiting for Translation

I think these two templates are very much duplicates in their function... Should we ditch the latter?--GYARI! GYARI! GYARI! ONE-SIX is no longer "公的驱逐舰"! Talk·Recent Edits 16:23, 16 February 2020 (CST)

How about redirecting Template:Waiting for Translation to Template:NeedsTranslating? KONNO Yumeto 21:55, 21 February 2020 (CST)
Kind of what I mean by ditching it. So yeah, (+)Agree. --GYARI! GYARI! GYARI! ONE-SIX is no longer "公的驱逐舰"! Talk·Recent Edits 17:24, 22 February 2020 (CST)
(+)Agree--RedstoneDave 23:17, 28 February 2020 (CST)
Done Seems like no one disagreed, so I've redirected Template:Waiting for Translation to Template:NeedsTranslating. -- Frank-san (Leave a message) 09:16, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
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--COVID be gone! One-Six A.K.A."公的驱逐舰" Talk·Recent Edits 09:06, 24 May 2020 (CST)

Petition for archiving threads

As they are too old to do any good, I petition for archiving all threads on this page that have no new messages after 1 January 2020; if this petition pass, this thread should be archived too.

As we have no clear policy on archiving nor active patrols or SysOps, I figure that an unanimous support from active editors can do the trick.

--GYARI! GYARI! GYARI! ONE-SIX is no longer "公的驱逐舰"! Talk·Recent Edits 17:30, 22 February 2020 (CST)

(+)Agree -----CarryYe 插了句话(讨论) 19:06, 22 February 2020 (CST)

No one else objecting? --COVID be gone! One-Six A.K.A."公的驱逐舰" Talk·Recent Edits 22:22, 6 March 2020 (CST)
@红石小蝈 Please archive (cut-paste) all threads that have no responses later than 1 January 2020 to /Archive/Before_2020. We can probably start manually archiving every three months or six months from now on. --COVID be gone! One-Six A.K.A."公的驱逐舰" Talk·Recent Edits COVID be gone! One-Six A.K.A."公的驱逐舰" Talk·Recent Edits 17:19, 15 May 2020 (CDT)
(+)Support Is anyone doing this? -- Frank-san (Leave a message) 07:35, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
Done I've archived all the topics according to their dates of last reply. Hope this works. -- Frank-san (Leave a message) 08:45, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
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--COVID be gone! One-Six A.K.A."公的驱逐舰" Talk·Recent Edits 09:06, 24 May 2020 (CST)

About "Surname-Given Name" or "Given Name-Surname"

As the title, Japanese characters like Misaka Mikoto are written as Mikoto Misaka in MGP, and that's a little wierd.

So shall we discuss about it?

Some possible ways (Using Hatsune Miku as example):

  1. Hatsune Miku
  2. Miku Hatsune
  3. HATSUNE Miku
  4. HATSUNE MIKU

--RedstoneDave 06:06, 18 March 2020 (CDT)

@红石小蝈 I personally Prefer "Familyname Givenname" for Japanese names (follow convention of the original language). Some Japanese characters use "Givenname Familyname" to follow English naming traditions; I think we can make them redirects, save for the rare circumstance that you have the equivalent of "White Steven" and "Steven White" both existing. I believe no one make name all caps unless they came all caps.
This is why we kinda need a Manual of Style, man. --COVID be gone! One-Six A.K.A."公的驱逐舰" Talk·Recent Edits 17:11, 15 May 2020 (CDT)
(+)Agree I would prefer "Hatsune Miku" or "Luo Tianyi" and redirect the rest. I also support the idea of a manual; it's absolutely necessary when it comes to things like this. There are so many things lacking in EnMGP… -- Frank-san (Leave a message) 07:31, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
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--Moegirlpedia:~ Leranjun$ Home · Talk · Contrib 18:42, 24 May 2020 (CST)

What's wrong with the Edit???

When I open the Edit, it shows me a wrong info:

Error loading data from server: apierror-visualeditor-docserver-http: HTTP 406. Would you like to retry?

What should I do???--悠远的苍穹 (Talk with me!) 04:11, 31 March 2020 (CDT)

Oh, use the "Edit source", the virtual edit is not avalible @850710247liu--From a patroller named RedstoneDave 06:38, 3 April 2020 (CDT)
Visual Editor appears to be fixed now. --COVID be gone! One-Six A.K.A."公的驱逐舰" Talk·Recent Edits 17:06, 15 May 2020 (CDT)
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VEdit appears fixed now. --COVID be gone! One-Six A.K.A."公的驱逐舰" Talk·Recent Edits 09:07, 24 May 2020 (CST)

Request to Delete Template:Quoted from other wikis

As seen in the previous discussion, these two templates have been merged, so it's unnecessary to keep Template:Quoted from other wikis anymore. -- Frank-san (Leave a message) 07:24, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

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Done by Lyhic. --COVID be gone! One-Six A.K.A."公的驱逐舰" Talk·Recent Edits 09:08, 24 May 2020 (CST)

Signature time zone was set to UTC now due to a bug.

Hi girls and guys,

we found a bug that preventing timezone settings in user Special:Preferences to take effect. Therefore all users' signature time become CDT as localtimezone were set to US central time before. We now change that settings to UTC0. We are not sure why user timezone settings were not taking effect, and trying to fix that.

ijou -- Baskice(talk) 07:32, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Seems like it's working on the Chinese site, but not here. (There is an option to use user-defined time in signature there, but I don't see the option here in the preferences panel.) --Moegirlpedia:~ Leranjun$ Home · Talk · Contrib 03:14, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Request to delete Did You Start Ogrodzenia Panelowe Drewniane Allegro For Passion Or Cash

Reason: Non-English content (seems in Portuguese). - C8H17OH (talk) 17:25, 20 May 2020 (CST)

I have just reported this article in the EnMGP Translate QQ group, so I suppose it would be soon deleted.
By the way, according to Google Translate, seems this article is written in Polish.——花生仔Ⓞ留言 13:50, 21 May 2020 (CST)
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Spam, deleted by Bridgegirl. --COVID be gone! One-Six A.K.A."公的驱逐舰" Talk·Recent Edits 09:08, 24 May 2020 (CST)

Request to Merge Template:Quoted from other wikis and Template:FromOther

I created Template:Quoted from other wikis yesterday, copying from the Chinese Moegirlpedia. However I have just found out about Template:FromOther today. Comparing the content of both templates I realised that there are some slight differences, not only in the wording but also in the content. I'm not sure which one to keep, so I'm posting here to see what everybody thinks about this.-- Frank-san (Leave a message) 08:19, 15 May 2020 (CDT)

@Leranjun Notice that we already had Template:From_other_wiki. I will recommend merging those two since their parameters are the same (you can even move the document page, like, right now: your doc is much better than the older one); but I will very much like to see migration to Template:FromOther eventually. There is still transclusion; can you fix those? --COVID be gone! One-Six A.K.A."公的驱逐舰" Talk·Recent Edits 17:05, 15 May 2020 (CDT)
@One-Six Thanks for the notice. I have already merged the Template:From other wiki and Template:Quoted from other wikis. However, I noticed that there are slight differences in terms of the usage of the templates, so I'd like to ask whether or not it is possible to see all pages that included the template and change them. Thanks again.-- Frank-san (Leave a message) 00:07, 16 May 2020 (CDT)
@Leranjun Use Special:WhatLinksHere. Or you can try to come up with a regex to automatically fix everythign and submit a full site regex replacement request here. —COVID be gone! One-Six A.K.A."公的驱逐舰" Talk·Recent Edits 08:41, 24 May 2020 (CST)

Template Similar to zh:Template:MarkAsResolved?

I was archiving all the posts on the discussion board the other day, and found out it's really hard to tell apart unnecessary posts from currently active ones without reading the contents. I'm just wondering if there is a template that can explicitly show whether or not a discussion topic is resolved, like zh:Template:MarkAsResolved.

中文

上次我在整理归档讨论版的时候,发现很难一下区分需要归档的和当前活跃的讨论串。我想知道有没有类似中文站zh:Template:MarkAsResolved的模板,能直观地显示一个讨论串是否已经被解决。

--Moegirlpedia:~ Leranjun$ Home · Talk · Contrib 10:54, 23 May 2020 (CST)

I can write one... Wait here. —COVID be gone! One-Six A.K.A."公的驱逐舰" Talk·Recent Edits 08:38, 24 May 2020 (CST)
@Leranjun, Template:MAR partially implemented. I stripped everything related to autoarchiving, but the marking function is still left. —COVID be gone! One-Six A.K.A."公的驱逐舰" Talk·Recent Edits 09:01, 24 May 2020 (CST)
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--Moegirlpedia:~ Leranjun$ Home · Talk · Contrib 18:41, 24 May 2020 (CST)

Request to delete "Jotaika of the Republic of China" from Mainpage

There is a link "Jotaika of the Republic of China" to Template:Jotaika_ROC on Mainpage. In my opinion:

  1. According to the page history, it was not added by Head Administrator Baskice (though he didn't remove it afterward) or any administrator;
  2. Since it was added in 2013, no one has created such template, including the user User:Xyninesky who added it himself/herself;
  3. Compared with "Jotaika of Anime And Manga Characters" and "Jotaika of Game Characters" which are listed together with it, it has less coverage, and can be included in "Moe Anthropomorphism of Countries" on the previous row;
  4. According to the policy of four areas across the Strait of ZhMPG, which I don't know if applys here, it contains inproper term "ROC".

Due to these reasons, I request to delete this link from Mainpage. That's all. - C8H17OH (talk) 18:30, 24 May 2020 (CST)

(+)Agree Plus, I would say "ROC" itself could be a really sensitive topic politically. --Moegirlpedia:~ Leranjun$ Home · Talk · Contrib 18:38, 24 May 2020 (CST)

@C8H17OH

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Bridgegirl had deleted it from the homepage. Why doesn't she come and put this up herself tho... (jk she's very busy) --Moegirlpedia:~ Leranjun$ Home · Talk · Contrib 19:02, 24 May 2020 (CST)