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| − | == Notice: About User Group in En/Ja MoegirlPedia == | + | == Concerning files == |
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| − | En/Ja MoegirlPedia has been maintaining the same user group in Zh MoegirlPedia '''temporarily''',which means that you are seen as a partoller, sysop or bureaucrat in En/Ja if you are partoller, sysop or bureaucrat in Zh, and vice versa.
| + | I'm not sure about the current situation of files. It seems to me that they are directly uploaded to the english moepedia page, instead of shared with others language pages in moe commons. Would it be possible if we relink all files into moe commons? Many pictures on pages are unable to be shown. Eg, [[Girls' Frontline: Springfield]]. |
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| − | But we suggest you use the discussion board in En/Ja MGP to apply for your rights if you edit there more.--<span style="text-shadow:dimgray 2px 3px 3px;">[[User:金萌桥姬|{{color|red|wiki}}{{color|#0066ff|bridgegirl}}]]</span><span style="text-shadow: green 1px 2px 2px;">([[User talk:金萌桥姬|{{color|green|☯heaven's gate}}]])</span> 12:58, 29 February 2020 (CST)
| + | Please correct me if I'm mistaken about this. |
| − | :Let me rephrase this.
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| − | ::"English and Japanese Moegirlpedia will be maintaining the same user group status as Chinese Moegirlpedia '''for now'''.
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| − | ::"This means that if you are a patroller, sysop, or bureaucrat in EnMGP or JaMGP, you will also be a patroller, sysop, or bureaucrat (and thus maintain the same user group status and rights) in ZhMGP; and vice versa (ZhMGP patrollers are also EnMGP patrollers, etc.)
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| − | ::"But we suggest that you use your local discussion boards to apply for these user group rights if you edit more on these locals. (So, use this board to apply for, say, patroller if you edit mostly in EnMGP. )"
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| − | ::--金萌桥姬, ZhMGP Sysop
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| − | :Also, the same sysop noted that this "auto user group link", one may call, may be broken later. --<span style="font-size:110%; font-family:Avenir Next,Avenir,Futura PT,Futura,sans-serif; font-weight:800;">[[:GYARI|<span style="color:#6369AE">GYARI! </span>]][[:Scramble Full Panic|<span style="color:#000">G</span>]][[:Abgm|<span style="color:#144057">Y</span>]][[:Tettey-terettey|<span style="color:#3C7995;">A</span>]][[:WAAAA!|<span style="color:#935339">R</span>]][[:Seyana|<span style="color:#C81214">I</span>]][[:Akari来了哦|<span style="color:#EDA93D">! </span>]][[:一直表扬我的樱乃空老师|<span style="color:#EDA1AC">G</span>]][[:Chocomintopia|<span style="color:#93D0EE">Y</span>]]<span style="color:#888">ARI! </span></span>[[User:公的驱逐舰|ONE-SIX]] <span style="color:#888; font-size:75%;">''is no longer "公的驱逐舰"! ''</span><span style="font-size:75%;">[[User_talk:公的驱逐舰|Talk]]·[[Special:COntributions/公的驱逐舰|Recent Edits]]</span> 23:17, 28 February 2020 (CST)
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| − | ::OH NO, Dave already fixed it--<span style="font-size:110%; font-family:Avenir Next,Avenir,Futura PT,Futura,sans-serif; font-weight:800;">[[:GYARI|<span style="color:#6369AE">GYARI! </span>]][[:Scramble Full Panic|<span style="color:#000">G</span>]][[:Abgm|<span style="color:#144057">Y</span>]][[:Tettey-terettey|<span style="color:#3C7995;">A</span>]][[:WAAAA!|<span style="color:#935339">R</span>]][[:Seyana|<span style="color:#C81214">I</span>]][[:Akari来了哦|<span style="color:#EDA93D">! </span>]][[:一直表扬我的樱乃空老师|<span style="color:#EDA1AC">G</span>]][[:Chocomintopia|<span style="color:#93D0EE">Y</span>]]<span style="color:#888">ARI! </span></span>[[User:公的驱逐舰|ONE-SIX]] <span style="color:#888; font-size:75%;">''is no longer "公的驱逐舰"! ''</span><span style="font-size:75%;">[[User_talk:公的驱逐舰|Talk]]·[[Special:COntributions/公的驱逐舰|Recent Edits]]</span> 23:17, 28 February 2020 (CST)
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| − | Update June 2020: It is now confirmed that the user groups in EnMGP (and JaMGP as well) will soon be separated from those of ZhMGP. It is still unknown when this will be implemented; however, it is assured that the current user groups would '''not''' change. That means if you are a patroller in ZhMGP currently, you would still be one in EnMGP and JaMGP. Your role might change depending on your behaviours on these sites later on. --<code style="border:0;background-color:#F2F2F2;color:black;font-family:Courier,monospace;">Moegirlpedia:~ Leranjun$ [[:User:Leranjun|<span style="color:black">Home</span>]] · [[:User talk:Leranjun|<span style="color:black">Talk</span>]] · [[:Special:Contributions/Leranjun|<span style="color:black">Contrib</span>]]</code> 18:45, 17 June 2020 (CST)
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| − | == Petition for enacting policy ==
| + | --[[User:Asakura Nemu|Asakura Nemu]] ([[User talk:Asakura Nemu|talk]]) 10:03, 19 October 2023 (UTC) |
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| − | I hereby petition for the enactment of [[User:公的驱逐舰/Provisional_Policy/User_group_policy]]. This is a translated and adapted excerpt from the original Chinese Moegirlpedia policy to be used to govern the actions, responsibilities, applications, and removals of authorities and Good Editor status in English Moegirlpedia, necessary at this time as the user group rights are still linked between ZhMGP and EnMGP. If adopted, this policy draft should be moved to [[Project:Provisional user group policy]] and protected.
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| − | I hope for unanimous consensus from the current community.
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| − | --<span style="font-family:'Source Pro',serif;font-weight:900;">COVID be gone! </span>[[User:One-Six|<span style="font-size:110%;font-weight:bold;">One-Six</span>]] <span style="color:#888; font-size:70%;font-style:italic;">A.K.A."公的驱逐舰"</span><span style="font-size:90%;"> [[User_talk:One-Six|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/One-Six|Recent Edits]]</span> 22:22, 6 March 2020 (CST)
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| − | :{{Agree|Support}},I looked the policy,and I belive that have a rule is necessary.---[[User:Carryye|Carryye]][[Special:用户贡献/Carryye|<img src="https://img.moegirl.org.cn/common/avatars/514814/128.png?ver=1582114809" style="width: 1.5em;"/>]]([[User_talk:Carryye|Meeting]]) 23:13, 6 March 2020 (CST)
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| − | :{{Agree|Support}}, but I do think "Aye" and "Nay" is kinda informal for a serious discussion situation tho… -- <img src="https://commons.moegirl.org.cn/extensions/Avatar/avatar.php?user=Leranjun" style="width:{{#if:2.5em|2.5em|80px}};height:auto;border:0.1em solid white;border-radius:50%;box-shadow:0px 0px 0.5em gray;" /> [[User:Leranjun|Frank-san]] ([[User_talk:Leranjun|Leave a message]]) 07:33, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
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| − | ::"Aye" and "Nay" are what many legislative bodies in the English speaking world uses for simple voice votes, so I decided that they fit the context better and can be easily differenciated from standard "agree" templates and the like. Also I need to update that policy a bit, things have changed recently. —<span style="font-family:'Source Pro',serif;font-weight:900;">COVID be gone! </span>[[User:One-Six|<span style="font-size:110%;font-weight:bold;">One-Six</span>]] <span style="color:#888; font-size:70%;font-style:italic;">A.K.A."公的驱逐舰"</span><span style="font-size:90%;"> [[User_talk:One-Six|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/One-Six|Recent Edits]]</span> 08:43, 24 May 2020 (CST)
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| − | :::Wait no, I did update it. It's all good; just did some quick proofreading. —<span style="font-family:'Source Pro',serif;font-weight:900;">COVID be gone! </span>[[User:One-Six|<span style="font-size:110%;font-weight:bold;">One-Six</span>]] <span style="color:#888; font-size:70%;font-style:italic;">A.K.A."公的驱逐舰"</span><span style="font-size:90%;"> [[User_talk:One-Six|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/One-Six|Recent Edits]]</span> 10:49, 24 May 2020 (CST)
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| − | == Please discuss before creating categories and templates unless you're really confident about your wording ==
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| − | I've seen [[:Category:Templates of template page]], [[:Category:RPG游戏]], [[:Category:Toby Fox作品]]... Just look at [[Special:WantedCategories]]. —<img src="//commons.moegirl.org.cn/extensions/Avatar/avatar.php?user=DGCK81LNN" style="height:2em;border-radius:1em"/>[[User:DGCK81LNN | DGCK81LNN]] ([[User Talk:DGCK81LNN|talk]]) 02:47, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
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| − | : {{Agree}} {{jk|Just some historical legacies. }}More examples but somehow different: [[:Category:Black Eyes]] / [[:Category:Black eyes]], [[:Category:Character]] / [[:Category:Characters]] / [[:Category:Charactor]] (?), etc. <br />Recently I am trying to handle with the categorizing of templates, and it would be greatly appreciated if you (and other editors) can help with the categorizing work. :)--[[User:GuoPC|<img src="//img.moegirl.org.cn/common/avatars/572538/original.png" style="width:20px;border-radius:3px;" /><sub>GuoPC</sub>]] [[User talk:GuoPC|☕]] [[Special:Contribs/GuoPC|📝]] 03:43, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
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| − | Someone's gotta {{jk|make you understand|You've been rickrolled}} add rules about page names when translating [[:zh:萌娘百科:编辑规范]]<br>{{btw}} I created [[Moegirlpedia:Guidelines]] and [[Help:Wiki quickstart]] which now temporarily redirect to their corresponding Chinese versions for now –<img src="//commons.moegirl.org.cn/extensions/Avatar/avatar.php?user=DGCK81LNN" style="height:2em;border-radius:1em"/>[[User:DGCK81LNN | DGCK81LNN]] ([[User Talk:DGCK81LNN|talk]]) 03:14, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
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| − | : {{Reply}} [[Help:Title Naming Standard|The title naming standard]] was created in July 2017, which may be quite different with the rules on ZhMGP now. --[[User:GuoPC|<img src="//img.moegirl.org.cn/common/avatars/572538/original.png" style="width:20px;border-radius:3px;" /><sub>GuoPC</sub>]] [[User talk:GuoPC|☕]] [[Special:Contribs/GuoPC|📝]] 03:43, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
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| − | :: Honestly, I don't quite like how current guidelines are named, not to mention the typos and grammar mistakes in the content. Personally, I would like to translate "编辑规范" as "Editing guidelines" or "Content guidelines" (as "Guidelines" in general is more of a category). "MoS" might also be a good alternative, although that's probably better translated into "格式手册". The "Title Naming Standard" is a guideline, not a help article, so it should be in the MGP namespace. Also, I think calling it "Naming conventions" sounds better…--<span style="color:#FD5F8A">Editor</span> <img src="https://commons.moegirl.org.cn/extensions/Avatar/avatar.php?user=Leranjun" style="height:2.5em;border-radius:50%;border:medium solid transparent;border-color:#3EB8FD #FD5F8A;" /> [[User:Leranjun|<span style="color:#3EB8FD">Rakuzen</span>]] 06:47, 16 February 2021 (UTC) edited on 06:52, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
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| − | ::: Indeed. The guideline system on EnMGP is still not complete and is a little confusing. I've tried to translate [[zhmoe:Project:编辑规范|the Editing guidelines page (at your preference) on ZhMGP]] last autumn, but the whole guideline system on ZhMGP was in discussion at that time, so I paused translation. Besides, I found if the Editing guidelines page is imported, there would be a large set of pages to import, which made me can't afford. ;w; --[[User:GuoPC|<img src="//img.moegirl.org.cn/common/avatars/572538/original.png" style="width:20px;border-radius:3px;" /><sub>GuoPC</sub>]] [[User talk:GuoPC|☕]] [[Special:Contribs/GuoPC|📝]] 07:55, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
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| − | ::: {{Agree}} My bad. Should've asked before creating those redirects. ―<img src="//commons.moegirl.org.cn/extensions/Avatar/avatar.php?user=DGCK81LNN" style="height:2em;border-radius:1em"/>[[User:DGCK81LNN | DGCK81LNN]] ([[User Talk:DGCK81LNN|talk]]) 02:51, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
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| − | :: {{btw}} According to [[Help:Title Naming Standard/Rules for Capitalization]] (which should be still worth referencing), shouldn't we move ''[[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic]]'' to '''''My Little Pony: Friendship <u>i</u>s Magic'''''?―<img src="//commons.moegirl.org.cn/extensions/Avatar/avatar.php?user=DGCK81LNN" style="height:2em;border-radius:1em"/>[[User:DGCK81LNN | DGCK81LNN]] ([[User Talk:DGCK81LNN|talk]]) 03:11, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
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| − | ::: Verbs should be capitalised, so that's fine. However, that rule really needs to be rewritten. It should only applies to works, not all articles. You wouldn't want "Everything Can Be Moe" instead of [[Everything can be moe]].--<span style="color:#FD5F8A">Editor</span> <img src="https://commons.moegirl.org.cn/extensions/Avatar/avatar.php?user=Leranjun" style="height:2.5em;border-radius:50%;border:medium solid transparent;border-color:#3EB8FD #FD5F8A;" /> [[User:Leranjun|<span style="color:#3EB8FD">Rakuzen</span>]] 04:27, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
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| − | :::: Oh yeah, I just realised the name of that page shouldn't be capitalised. Very funny (--<span style="color:#FD5F8A">Editor</span> <img src="https://commons.moegirl.org.cn/extensions/Avatar/avatar.php?user=Leranjun" style="height:2.5em;border-radius:50%;border:medium solid transparent;border-color:#3EB8FD #FD5F8A;" /> [[User:Leranjun|<span style="color:#3EB8FD">Rakuzen</span>]] 04:32, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
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| − | :::: Oh I got that one wrong. {{jk|It's because I usually abbreviate that to '''MLP:F<u>i</u>M''' instead of '''MLP:F<u>I</u>M'''.}} ―<img src="//commons.moegirl.org.cn/extensions/Avatar/avatar.php?user=DGCK81LNN" style="height:2em;border-radius:1em"/>[[User:DGCK81LNN | DGCK81LNN]] ([[User Talk:DGCK81LNN|talk]]) 07:44, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
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| − | {{MarkAsResolved|sign=「[[User talk:TNLHK/Can you really call it a sign board,i just copy other sign board code|sign]]」from <img style="width:35px;height:35px;border-radius:50%;overflow:hidden;box-shadow:dimgray 2px 2px 2px" src="//img.moegirl.org.cn/common/avatars/667032/original.png" /> [[User:TNLHK|TNLHK]]「[[User talk:TNLHK|talk]]」 06:20, 28 March 2021 (UTC)|time=20210328|status=n|archive-offset=10}}
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| − | == Editor Group ==
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| − | I'm here to make a request.
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| − | Let's make an editor group.
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| − | The subject of this group will be: virtual assistants, or AI (artificial intelligence). Like Siri, Alexa, or Cortana. You understand, right?
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| − | I have already created pages for a few AI. Here they are:
| + | :All files are uploading to the moe commons, you can click "View on MoeGirl Commons" button in file detail page.--[[User:KingChan|虚研社箱推人/矢志不渝Cosecant]] ([[User talk:KingChan|talk]]) 02:47, 20 October 2023 (UTC) |
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| − | * [[Ai Ling]] from Tencent
| + | ::I would contend otherwise... Take File:Springfield_Private_dress.jpg as an example. It cannot be found in commons (yet, since I just uploaded it). P.S., [[Girls' Frontline: Springfield]] links to this photo (as can be seen in "File Usage") but the picture cannot be seen on the wiki page. Could you be so kind as to see if it is possible to fix it? --[[User:Asakura Nemu|Asakura Nemu]] ([[User talk:Asakura Nemu|talk]]) 03:29, 20 October 2023 (UTC) |
| − | * [[Xiao Ai]] from Xiaomi
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| − | I need people who can help expand on those two articles, and then we can get to work with others. | + | :::I can see it now. Perhaps you did not upload this file correctly, or it may be due to network latency.--[[User:KingChan|虚研社箱推人/矢志不渝Cosecant]] ([[User talk:KingChan|talk]]) 06:15, 20 October 2023 (UTC) |
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| − | (I already suggested this idea on Chinese Moegirlpedia as they have editor groups there.) | + | {{MarkAsResolved|sign=--[[User:Asakura Nemu|Asakura Nemu]] ([[User talk:Asakura Nemu|talk]]) 3:45, 23 October 2023 (UTC)|comment=Issue has already been resolved on zh discussion board. The en site will retain its separate file system but users can use commons.}} |
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| − | If you don't want to join, that's fine. I will not force you. Promise.
| + | == Proposing a template for translated pages == |
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| − | [[User:LiaMinina|LiaMinina]] ([[User talk:LiaMinina|talk]]) 17:23, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
| + | About translated pages |
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| − | == EnMGP Licenses ==
| + | I've just committed a page [[Mesugaki]] <del>so that I can use it in my user page</del>. The problem now is, I suck at {{ruby|translating|English}}, and the article is barely readable, let alone coherent. So I stuck a [[Template:Langproblem]] in there. |
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| − | {{movedfrom|zhmoe:萌娘百科_talk:讨论版/操作申请#EnMGP_Licenses}}
| + | The thing here is, I don't think the template was especially designed for this. That was probably for simple language problems. So I was thinking if anyone could write a template that can be hung to demonstrate that the page was <i>directly</i> adopted from another language version. |
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| − | I have noticed that English Moegirlpedia does not have an image licensing dropdown menu as Commons has... I already made some licensing templates, so I was wondering if EnMGP can have that menu too. | + | I think it could contain the following message and parameters: |
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| − | [[User:LiaMinina|LiaMinina]]（[[User talk:LiaMinina|讨论]]） 2021年6月25日 (五) 04:43 (CST)
| + | * A note telling readers that the page was directly translated; |
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| − | : I'm not sure if that would be necessary, but only Ann has the permission to do so, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ --<span style="color:#FD5F8A">Editor</span> <img src="https://commons.moegirl.org.cn/extensions/Avatar/avatar.php?user=Leranjun" style="height:2.5em;border-radius:50%;border:medium solid transparent;border-color:#3EB8FD #FD5F8A;" /> [[User:Leranjun|<span style="color:#3EB8FD">Rakuzen</span>]] 02:00, 25 June 2021 (UTC) | + | * Parameter: language version (choices from zh/ja), defaults zh; |
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| − | : {{btw}} So why not upload directly to Commons? --[[User:GuoPC|<img src="//img.moegirl.org.cn/common/avatars/572538/original.png" style="width:20px;border:1px #DDB463 dashed;border-radius:50%;vertical-align:bottom;" /> <span style="color:#DDB463;font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;">GuoPC</span>]] [[User talk:GuoPC|☕]] [[Special:Contribs/GuoPC|📝]] 14:47, 25 June 2021 (UTC) | + | * Parameter: (optional) extern link to original page or name of original entry |
| − | :: Joji's opinion is that if a file is only used in EnMGP, it would be best to just upload to En. I'm not sure I fully agree with this idea though. {{JK|Wiki bridge girl are you watching}}--<span style="color:#FD5F8A">Editor</span> <img src="https://commons.moegirl.org.cn/extensions/Avatar/avatar.php?user=Leranjun" style="height:2.5em;border-radius:50%;border:medium solid transparent;border-color:#3EB8FD #FD5F8A;" /> [[User:Leranjun|<span style="color:#3EB8FD">Rakuzen</span>]] 14:52, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
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| − | ::: All right. Then I {{agree|support}} LiaMinina's initiative. {{jk|Wiki bridge girl(?) is watching you.}} --[[User:GuoPC|<img src="//img.moegirl.org.cn/common/avatars/572538/original.png" style="width:20px;border:1px #DDB463 dashed;border-radius:50%;vertical-align:bottom;" /> <span style="color:#DDB463;font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;">GuoPC</span>]] [[User talk:GuoPC|☕]] [[Special:Contribs/GuoPC|📝]] 15:03, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
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| − | :::: {{jk|{{btw}} who is wiki bridge girl.}}--[[User:Tibbie2017tibbie2018|Tibbie2017tibbie2018]] ([[User_talk:Tibbie2017tibbie2018|talk]]) 15:32, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
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| − | ::::: [[U:金萌桥姬]]. --<span style="color:#FD5F8A">Editor</span> <img src="https://commons.moegirl.org.cn/extensions/Avatar/avatar.php?user=Leranjun" style="height:2.5em;border-radius:50%;border:medium solid transparent;border-color:#3EB8FD #FD5F8A;" /> [[User:Leranjun|<span style="color:#3EB8FD">Rakuzen</span>]] 00:33, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
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| − | == Problem about translating categories ==
| + | * Parameter: translation method (choices from 1/2/3/4), where numbers expand as follows: <br> 1->Manual <br> 2->Manual with Machine Assistance <br> 3->Machine with Manual Proofreading <br> 4->Machine <br> I think this could default to 3 or 4, but since Machine translation is not allowed defaulting to 4 might cause confusion. |
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| − | I want to translate Category:作品题材 but I don't know whether I should use topics or themes.--[[User:Tibbie2017tibbie2018|Tibbie2017tibbie2018]] ([[User_talk:Tibbie2017tibbie2018|talk]]) 16:26, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
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| − | : {{re|Tibbie2017tibbie2018}} On WP I believe they have both "Works by topic" and "Works by generes". --<span style="color:#FD5F8A">Editor</span> <img src="https://commons.moegirl.org.cn/extensions/Avatar/avatar.php?user=Leranjun" style="height:2.5em;border-radius:50%;border:medium solid transparent;border-color:#3EB8FD #FD5F8A;" /> [[User:Leranjun|<span style="color:#3EB8FD">Rakuzen</span>]] 13:05, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
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| − | :: {{re|Leranjun}} I think you may mean "genres"? I support this translation. --[[User:GuoPC|<img src="//img.moegirl.org.cn/common/avatars/572538/original.png" style="width:20px;border:1px #DDB463 dashed;border-radius:50%;vertical-align:bottom;" /> <span style="color:#DDB463;font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;">GuoPC</span>]] [[User talk:GuoPC|☕]] [[Special:Contribs/GuoPC|📝]] 04:43, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
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| − | == New Bangumi Topic ==
| + | I'm not familiar with templates so I was hoping someone else would be capable of doing this. |
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| − | I have translated the New Bangumi Topic templates and put them in my userpages.
| + | --[[User:Asakura Nemu|Asakura Nemu]] ([[User talk:Asakura Nemu|talk]]) 08:55, 21 October 2023 (UTC) |
| − | *[[User:Tibbie2017tibbie2018/New Bangumi Topic]]
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| − | *[[User:Tibbie2017tibbie2018/New Bangumi Topic/Sunday]]
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| − | *[[User:Tibbie2017tibbie2018/New Bangumi Topic/Monday]]
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| − | *[[User:Tibbie2017tibbie2018/New Bangumi Topic/Tuesday]]
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| − | *[[User:Tibbie2017tibbie2018/New Bangumi Topic/Wednesday]]
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| − | *[[User:Tibbie2017tibbie2018/New Bangumi Topic/Thursday]]
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| − | *[[User:Tibbie2017tibbie2018/New Bangumi Topic/Friday]]
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| − | --[[User:Tibbie2017tibbie2018|Tibbie2017tibbie2018]] ([[User_talk:Tibbie2017tibbie2018|talk]]) 17:07, 12 August 2021 (UTC) | |
| − | : Great job! At least it's much more interesting than before. So how can we apply them to Mainpage or somewhere else? --[[User:GuoPC|<img src="//img.moegirl.org.cn/common/avatars/572538/original.png" style="width:20px;border:1px #DDB463 dashed;border-radius:50%;vertical-align:bottom;" /> <span style="color:#DDB463;font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;">GuoPC</span>]] [[User talk:GuoPC|☕]] [[Special:Contribs/GuoPC|📝]] 04:54, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
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| − | == About Disambiguation ==
| + | :Web pages whose entire content is automatically generated by a program are not allowed in [[萌娘百科:收录范围#不予收录| zhmoe]], maybe you should consider the same standards.--[[User:KingChan|KingChan]] / Fan of [[XY Production]] 02:58, 25 October 2023 (UTC) |
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| − | I have just found that there are some pages without space between title and bracket (e.g.[[Clockwork planet(song)]] created by [[User: Honoka55]]), but some created with space (e.g.[[King (The King of Fighters' charactor)]] created by [[User:Southerncruz]]) and Chinese Moegirlpedia doesn't use space. Should English Moegirlpedia use space?--[[User:Tibbie2017tibbie2018|Tibbie2017tibbie2018]] ([[User_talk:Tibbie2017tibbie2018|talk]]) 03:22, 15 August 2021 (UTC) | + | ::It appears I have not made myself clear. I ''manually'' translated this page in concern. What I'm saying is, I am not learnt in translation, and cannot ensure my translations are coherent. The meaning of this template is: the page was translated from another language, instead of being originally writen in the language of this pedia (English). Thus I am discussing the probability of creating a specific template to warn the users: this page was translated, and may have misleading language. |
| − | : {{re|Tibbie2017tibbie2018}} I think there should be a space. --[[User:GuoPC|<span style="color:#DDB463;font-family:Book Antiqua,serif;">'''GuoPC'''</span>]]·[[User talk:GuoPC|<span style="color:#DDB463;font-family:Book Antiqua,serif;">''Talk''</span>]]·[[Special:Contribs/GuoPC|<span style="color:#DDB463;font-family:Book Antiqua,serif;">''Contribs''</span>]] 04:31, 15 August 2021 (UTC) | + | ::I totally agree disallowing machine translated pages on this pedia. This is not a big problem, since we can adjust the parameters to disinclude 4. However, doing so would in fact ''encourage'' people to use 3 in the place of 4, and you can't even say they did not do anything. --[[User:Asakura Nemu|Asakura Nemu]] ([[User talk:Asakura Nemu|talk]]) 05:16, 28 October 2023 (UTC) |
| − | : {{agree}} There should be a space before brackets, per normal English grammar. --<span style="color:#FD5F8A">Editor</span> <img src="https://commons.moegirl.org.cn/extensions/Avatar/avatar.php?user=Leranjun" style="height:2.5em;border-radius:50%;border:medium solid transparent;border-color:#3EB8FD #FD5F8A;" /> [[User:Leranjun|<span style="color:#3EB8FD">Rakuzen</span>]] 01:37, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
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| − | : {{Agree}} Maybe there should be a simple manual of style. As many editors are not familiar with English typography. <span style="color:#FFD2EA80">▘</span><span style="color:#FFD2EA">▗</span> <span style="color:#DFC4FC">▚</span> [[User:あめろ|<big><span style="color:#9C89B0;border-bottom:#DFC4FC 2px solid">'''あめろ'''</span></big>]] [[User_talk:あめろ|<span style="color:#9C89B0">DISCUSS</span>]] 16:35, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
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| − | == About translating the word 娘 == | + | {{MAR|sign=[[User:Asakura Nemu|Nochelux Iquinawir Illumina]] ([[User talk:Asakura Nemu|Criticize]]) 8:36, 5 November 2023 (UTC) | time=20231105 |status=r|comment=[[User:6116G|6116G]] has already written this template. Issue resolved.}} |
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| − | I saw that in English Moegirlpedia 娘 is translated to Girl but in [[:zh:大气娘]], [[:zh:大地娘]], [[:zh:海洋娘]] it is translated to Maiden, so which one should we use?--[[User:Tibbie2017tibbie2018|Tibbie2017tibbie2018]] ([[User_talk:Tibbie2017tibbie2018|talk]]) 16:46, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
| + | == On Categorization Policies == |
| − | :I think "''[[jawp:たん (接尾語)|-tan]]''" is okay.--[[User:LordYoung|LordYoung]] ([[User talk:LordYoung|talk]]) 11:13, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
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| − | == About English name of 我的三体 ==
| + | On the [[https://en.moegirl.org.cn/Template:Moegirlpedia_help|Moepedia help template]], there is "Categorizing articles" in "Intermediate Editing" (which redirects to [[User:Nostalgia/Category_tree|a page]] under [[U:Nostalgia]] who is apparently blocked). So I'm dropping a note here to memo that someone has to write a policy document on categorizing. |
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| − | Coming back to the web for some time, I found that there are many different translations for '''我的三体'''. In the '''titles''' in the animation uploaded to '''[https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC65g-hPcIKXofqtxnlciFiQ YouTube]''', it is translated to '''''Mine Threebody Animation'''''. In '''Season1 Episode09''', it is translated to '''''Three Body in MC'''''. In '''English Wikipedia''', it is translated to '''''The Three-Body Problem in Minecraft'''''. Other webs' translations are '''''MC Three Body''''', '''''My Threebody''''', '''''My Three Body''''', '''''My Three-Body''''', etc. Which one should we use?--[[User:Tibbie2017tibbie2018|Tibbie2017tibbie2018]] ([[User_talk:Tibbie2017tibbie2018|talk]]) 16:06, 10 October 2021 )
| + | A few weeks ago I rebased Category:Userbox to Category:Userboxes. So I was thinking Categories that have a noun phrase as the central part of the phrase should be in plural. |
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| − | I think the title "'''''The Three-body Problem in Minecraft'''''" is OK. And other titles should be mentioned in the Sidebox. --[[User:禹杨杨]] 14:59, 21 June 2022 (UTC) | + | I don't think zh has a Categorization policy either. Let's see if we can implement this on en first. |
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| − | == Spirou & Fantasio Discussion ==
| + | --[[User:Asakura Nemu|Nochelux Iquinawir Illumina]] ([[User talk:Asakura Nemu|talk]]) 12:23, 18 November 2023 (UTC) |
| − | Hello everyone! [[User:LiaMinina|LiaMinina]] ([[User talk:LiaMinina|talk]]) 17:16, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
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| − | Hi--[[User talk:云霞|<span style="opacity:0.97;font-family:Times New Roman;font-style:italic">From KumoKasumi the Bureaucrat & SysOp</span>]] 06:22, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
| + | The capitalization policy of categories has no coherence whatsoever. I'll give an example that I noticed. |
| − | :Hello, Kasumi! [[User:LiaMinina|LiaMinina]] ([[User talk:LiaMinina|talk]]) 16:48, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
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| − | ::Hi~LiaMinina--[[User:PlumLee|PlumLee]] ([[User talk:PlumLee|talk]]) 09:12, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
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| − | :hi,LiaMinina--[[file:苏维埃国旗.jpg|25px]][[User:Jingkela1123|社会主义阵营支持者Jingkela1123]]([[User talk:Jingkela1123|参加全俄代表大会]])([[special:用户贡献/jingkela1123|对人民的贡献]]) 14:01, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
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| − | : Hello! —— '''[[使用者:Ericliu1912|Eric Liu]]'''<sub> 創造は生命（'''[[使用者討論:Ericliu1912|留言]]'''）</sub> 20:04, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
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| − | == MoegirlPedia not supporting "background-image" CSS property ==
| + | [[:Category:Pages_with_Materials_Awaiting_Translation|Category:Pages_with_Materials_Awaiting_Translation]] follows [[Help:Title_Naming_Standard/Rules_for_Capitalization|article naming standards]]. Then, it claims to have two subcats that just capitalize the first letter <i>without</i> capitalizing the proper nouns: [[:Category:Pages_with_chinese_materials_awaiting_translation|Category:Pages_with_chinese_materials_awaiting_translation]] and [[:Category:Pages_with_japanese_materials_awaiting_translation|Category:Pages_with_japanese_materials_awaiting_translation]]. But then we <i>do</i> have another category [[:Category:Pages_with_Chinese_materials_awaiting_translation|Category:Pages_with_Chinese_materials_awaiting_translation]] that <i>does</i> capitalize proper nouns. |
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| − | As the title mentions, I failed to add "background-image" CSS property in [https://en.moegirl.org.cn/index.php?title=Template:Umamusume_clothing/style.css&oldid=31986 this CSS file] and had to comment them. I wonder if MoegirlPedia would solve this problem and support this property in the near future.
| + | So we're essentially following 3 sets of capitalization methods in this simple example. It is <b><i>urgent</b></i> that we agree on <i>one</i> capitalization method. This issue was never brought up on zh or jp because they don't capitalize anyways. |
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| − | Thanks and sorry for my bad English. — [[User:Chi_ZJ2|Chi_ZJ2]]（[[User_talk:Chi_ZJ2|讨论]]） 05:33, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
| + | --[[User:Asakura Nemu|Nochelux Iquinawir Illumina]] ([[User talk:Asakura Nemu|talk]]) 08:30, 23 November 2023 (UTC) |
| − | : {{re|Chi_ZJ2}} Yeah, <code>background-image</code> does not support <code>url()</code> due to security reasons. I did think the O&M team allowlisted URL from Commons though? I'll check. --<span style="color:#FD5F8A">Editor</span> <img src="https://commons.moegirl.org.cn/extensions/Avatar/avatar.php?user=Leranjun" style="height:2.5em;border-radius:50%;border:medium solid transparent;border-color:#3EB8FD #FD5F8A;" /> [[User:Leranjun|<span style="color:#3EB8FD">Rakuzen</span>]] 05:56, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
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| − | == Layout and Background Image Problem ==
| + | :Hi. Actually, a "category policy" or "category guidelines" page wouldn't be a bad idea. Also, I checked, and yes, unfortunately, ZhMGP doesn't have that kind of page either. So, how would that kind of policy or guideline document work? [[User:LiaMinina|LiaMinina]] ([[User talk:LiaMinina|talk]]) 20:12, 23 November 2023 (UTC) |
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| − | I think I figured out how to fix the layout of a page with {{tl|Background Image}} inserted. I was tinkering around with the source code and I think I have found the solution. [[User:LiaMinina|LiaMinina]] ([[User talk:LiaMinina|talk]]) 13:09, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
| + | :In fact there is [[:zh:MGP:分类指引|a loose regulation on categories]] on Chinese Moegirlpedia, though a clear consensus have yet to be reached after a proposal with really mass discussions on it there.--[[User:6116G|6116G]] ([[User talk:6116G|talk]]) 09:28, 25 November 2023 (UTC) |
| − | :I was testing with the CSS in the afternoon. [[User:LiaMinina|LiaMinina]] ([[User talk:LiaMinina|talk]]) 00:16, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
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| + | ::Not very detailed & quite idealized; I doubt there would be tens of thousands of CATs on moe zh if this regulation were really carried out. Plus, it doesn't address issues specific to EN, like pluralization and capitalization. <br>Nonetheless it would be a great place to start from; if we are to write a new guideline we'll try our best to keep it inline with this guideline. Just to ask, do you know how many votes we would need to get for such a guideline in order to send it into effect? There aren't many active editors on EN Moe; most Moe regulators don't visit this remote place that often either.--[[User:Asakura Nemu|Nochelux Iquinawir Illumina]] ([[User talk:Asakura Nemu|talk]]) 11:02, 25 November 2023 (UTC) |
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| − | Today, I tested migrating the ZhMGP current layout/skin to EnMGP. Can you tell me if I did it right? What things do I need to correct? I await your answers. [[User:LiaMinina|LiaMinina]] ([[User talk:LiaMinina|talk]]) 01:09, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
| + | :::According to regulations on [[:zh:MGP:投票方针|votes]] and [[:zh:MGP:提案|proposal]], there seems to be no limits of the least votes, only of the least administrators (including the higher-level bureaucrats) attended of 2, as well as a simple rule of votes pros-over-cons of both mass and admins to pass a proposal. However operators (so-called '''staff''' in zhmoe) of the site have been moving into a much more centralized policy since late September, thus {{spoiler|admins are now designated by operators instead of voted by mass, and }} votes of administratiors and patrollers have been doubled to 4 and 2 votes, separately. That means every single administrator holds more votes than us three. I think [[:zh:T:萌娘百科政策文件|this template]] would help you go through most policies more easily.--[[User:6116G|6116G]] ([[User talk:6116G|talk]]) 14:42, 25 November 2023 (UTC) |
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| − | == Title of ''[[Dear Little Wish]]'' == | + | == Article deletion == |
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| − | I guess its true (or full) title is somewhat with ''Pleasant Goat and Big Big Wolf''. It's weird with just ''Dear Little Wish'' being the title. | + | Hello. I think that [[Africans|this article]] should be deleted since it's about a (mostly) controversial topic and people might sense "disturbing racist undertones" there. I believe Moegirlpedia should avoid getting into this type of trouble. Also, I believe that the term "{{lang|zh|非洲人}}" originated from the Chinese community and it is mostly used there, and their culture isn't the same as others, so I don't think would fit into the scope of English Moegirlpedia. Chinese Moegirlpedia covers many terms and slang that only Chinese people can understand... [[User:LiaMinina|LiaMinina]] ([[User talk:LiaMinina|talk]]) 16:24, 15 December 2023 (UTC) |
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| − | Other article of works in this series also have this problem. <span style="color:#FFD2EA80">▘</span><span style="color:#FFD2EA">▗</span> <span style="color:#DFC4FC">▚</span> [[User:あめろ|<big><span style="color:#9C89B0;border-bottom:#DFC4FC 2px solid">'''あめろ'''</span></big>]] [[User_talk:あめろ|<span style="color:#9C89B0">DISCUSS</span>]] 16:34, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
| + | {{MarkAsResolved|sign=[[User:KingChan|KingChan]] / Fan of [[XY Production]] 09:34, 8 April 2024 (UTC)|time=20240408|status=a|archive-offset=3|comment=}} |
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| − | :Should we use "Pleasant Goat and Big Big Wolf –" or "Pleasant Goat and Big Big Wolf:"? I saw that both of them are used in Wikipedia--[[User:Tibbie2017tibbie2018|<img src="https://img.moegirl.org.cn/common/avatars/685771/original.png?ver=5fbfae90" style="width: 2.5em;border-radius: 50%;box-shadow: 1px 1px 2px 0px rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.45);"/>]] '''[[User:Tibbie2017tibbie2018|<span style="color:#fb7299">Tibbie2017tibbie2018</span>]]''', <span style="color:#fb7299">Said quitting network but keep editing wikis</span>: I would leave after [[Special:Contributions/Tibbie2017tibbie2018|editing]] this time, [[I Will Be Back(catchphrase)|I WILL BE BACK]] (Running at the speed of [[Natural Selection, Ahead Four|Ahead Four]]) ([[User_talk:Tibbie2017tibbie2018|scold her here]]) 06:18, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
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| − | == Can I use InPageEdit in the English version of Moegirlpedia? ==
| + | Hello again... I want [[Archon|this article]] to be deleted, since too much of the text is copied from [https://tvtropes.org TV Tropes] (specifically [https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OurArchonsAreDifferent these] [https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/UsefulNotes/Gnosticism pages]). I believe the Chinese version of the article (from which I made the translation) had the same problem and it was deleted as well, since I couldn't find it. When I checked the article here, I saw that my translated text was too similar to the original articles on TV Tropes. [[User:LiaMinina|LiaMinina]] ([[User talk:LiaMinina|talk]]) 15:24, 16 December 2023 (UTC) |
| | + | :In fact you can choose to restructure the content or write the article in a different way to avoid copyright issue (the reason Chinese version deleted), but since the page was created by you I think it's also OK to delete it. [[User:6116G|6116G]] ([[User talk:6116G|talk]]) 16:12, 16 December 2023 (UTC) |
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| − | I used to editing wiki pages by '''InPageEdit''' which is a gadget made by [[User:机智的小鱼君]]. However, I can't find it in the preferences. --[[User:禹杨杨]] 14:53, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
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| − | : {{re|禹杨杨}} Hello and welcome to EnMGP! Yes, you may load IPE by adding this line to [[Special:MyPage/common.js|your common.js page]]:
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| − | : Hope this helps :) --<span style="color:#FD5F8A">Editor</span> <img src="https://commons.moegirl.org.cn/extensions/Avatar/avatar.php?user=Leranjun" style="height:2.5em;border-radius:50%;border:medium solid transparent;border-color:#3EB8FD #FD5F8A;" /> [[User:Leranjun|<span style="color:#3EB8FD">Rakuzen</span>]] 15:15, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
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| − | :: Also don't forget to sign with <code><nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki></code> after a comment. Your signature has to include at least one link to your user page, your user discussion page or your contribution page. --<span style="color:#FD5F8A">Editor</span> <img src="https://commons.moegirl.org.cn/extensions/Avatar/avatar.php?user=Leranjun" style="height:2.5em;border-radius:50%;border:medium solid transparent;border-color:#3EB8FD #FD5F8A;" /> [[User:Leranjun|<span style="color:#3EB8FD">Rakuzen</span>]] 15:17, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
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| − | :{{re|Leranjun}} Thank you very much! And please mar this issue. [[User:禹杨杨|禹杨杨]] ([[User talk:禹杨杨|talk]]) 04:46, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
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| − | == Changing copyright license for EnMGP and JaMGP == | + | == New draft proposal concerning Translation Moderator == |
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| − | A new discussion thread has been started on ZhMGP regarding the change of copyright license for EnMGP and JaMGP. [[ zhmoe:Project_talk: 讨论版/ 方针政策#关于EnMGP、JaMGP站点著作权协议更改的意见征集|Please express your thoughts here.]] Thanks! --<span style=" color: #FD5F8A"> Editor</span> <img src="https:// commons.moegirl.org.cn/ extensions/ Avatar/ avatar. php? user= Leranjun" style=" height: 2.5em;border-radius:50%; border:medium solid transparent;border- color:#3EB8FD #FD5F8A;" /> [[User:Leranjun|<span style="color:#3EB8FD">Rakuzen</span>]] 16: 46, 26 July 2022 ( UTC) | + | All editors, please be notified a new proposal has been submitted at [[Talk:Discussion_board/Translation_moderator]], according to regulations discussions about to take place. |
| − | | + | --<span style=" font-family:Arial;font-size: 11pt"> [[U:Asakura_Nemu|<img src="https:// img.moegirl.org.cn/ common/avatars/ 470354/ 128. png? ver= 1695197566" style=" width: 2em;border-radius: 50%; box- shadow: 1px 1px 2px 0px rgba( 11, 45, 14, 0. 45) ;"/> Nochelux Iquinawir Illumina]]</ span><span style="color:# 33ffcc;font-family: consolas; font-size:8pt"> the Unexperienced Wikier</span> ([[ User_talk: Asakura_Nemu| Criticize]] · Work on [[ enmoe: Mainpage| EN Moegirlpedia]]) 20:10, 8 April 2024 (UTC) |
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| − | Reason:"Sing (movie)" hasn't been created for a long time. So, "[[Sing (Hatsune Miku)]]" doesn't need to be disambiguated. "Sing" should be deleted to move "Sing (Hatsune Miku)" back.——[[User:4O74Y74L74J7|4O74Y74L74J7]] ([[User talk:4O74Y74L74J7|talk]]) 07:57, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
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| − | I introduced this template to EnMGP to replace title. However, it doesn't work. Then I know that this template is based on the word conversion system which EnMGP doesn't have, so that this template can't work well here necessarily and we can't fix it. So it should be deleted.--[[User:4O74Y74L74J7|4O74Y74L74J7]] ([[User talk:4O74Y74L74J7|talk]]) 14:02, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
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| − | :For anyone who views this paragraph later: we already have {{tl|Displaytitle}} to replace title and it can work well.--[[User:4O74Y74L74J7|4O74Y74L74J7]] ([[User talk:4O74Y74L74J7|talk]]) 06:15, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
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| − | {{lang|zh-hans|很抱歉在这里说中文，但是本站中关于《三体》系列的词条，涉及到艾AA和白Ice这两位人物时采用的翻译是将姓氏拉丁化，即使用拼音。但在现在通行的刘宇昆先生的英文译本中，所使用的译法是保留姓氏中的汉字，并添加注释。在书中中国人的名字译法都是先姓后名，中英混杂的名字保留姓氏汉字可以避免歧义，也可以保留原文特色。我个人认为应该批量修改“Ai AA”以及“Bai Ice”为“艾AA”与“白Ice”}}<br/>
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| − | ::''Sorry to speak Chinese on EnMoe, but the translations used in the entries on this site about the Three-Body Problem series, foe example Ai AA and Bai Ice, are Latinized surnames, that is, using Chinese pinyin. But in the current version of Ken Liu's English translation, the Chinese characters in the surname are kept and annotated. In the book, the translation of Chinese names is first family name and then given name. For mixed Chinese and English names, the Chinese surname characters can avoid ambiguity and retain the original features. Personally, I think "Ai AA" and "Bai Ice" should be changed to "艾AA" and "白Ice".''
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| − | :{{Agree}}. Things should be called by what their owners call them. {{lang|zh-hant|同意，名從主人。}}--''[[User:Takeuchi|<img style="width:34px;height:34px;border-radius:50%;" src="//img.moegirl.org.cn/common/avatars/720720/original.png"/><span style="color:#FF7300">Takeuchi</span>]]<span style="color:#00FF00;">.BadEditor</span> '' ('''[[User talk:Takeuchi|Talk]]''') 02:13, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
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| − | I'm not sure about the current situation of files. It seems to me that they are directly uploaded to the english moepedia page, instead of shared with others language pages in moe commons. Would it be possible if we relink all files into moe commons? Many pictures on pages are unable to be shown. Eg, [[Girls' Frontline: Springfield]].
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| − | --[[User:Asakura Nemu|Asakura Nemu]] ([[User talk:Asakura Nemu|talk]]) 10:03, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
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Concerning files
I'm not sure about the current situation of files. It seems to me that they are directly uploaded to the english moepedia page, instead of shared with others language pages in moe commons. Would it be possible if we relink all files into moe commons? Many pictures on pages are unable to be shown. Eg, Girls' Frontline: Springfield.
Please correct me if I'm mistaken about this.
--Asakura Nemu (talk) 10:03, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
- All files are uploading to the moe commons, you can click "View on MoeGirl Commons" button in file detail page.--虚研社箱推人/矢志不渝Cosecant (talk) 02:47, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
- I would contend otherwise... Take File:Springfield_Private_dress.jpg as an example. It cannot be found in commons (yet, since I just uploaded it). P.S., Girls' Frontline: Springfield links to this photo (as can be seen in "File Usage") but the picture cannot be seen on the wiki page. Could you be so kind as to see if it is possible to fix it? --Asakura Nemu (talk) 03:29, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
- I can see it now. Perhaps you did not upload this file correctly, or it may be due to network latency.--虚研社箱推人/矢志不渝Cosecant (talk) 06:15, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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CommentIssue has already been resolved on zh discussion board. The en site will retain its separate file system but users can use commons. ----
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talk) 3:45, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
Proposing a template for translated pages
About translated pages
I've just committed a page Mesugaki so that I can use it in my user page. The problem now is, I suck at translating, and the article is barely readable, let alone coherent. So I stuck a Template:Langproblem in there.
The thing here is, I don't think the template was especially designed for this. That was probably for simple language problems. So I was thinking if anyone could write a template that can be hung to demonstrate that the page was directly adopted from another language version.
I think it could contain the following message and parameters:
- A note telling readers that the page was directly translated;
- Parameter: language version (choices from zh/ja), defaults zh;
- Parameter: (optional) extern link to original page or name of original entry
- Parameter: translation method (choices from 1/2/3/4), where numbers expand as follows:
1->Manual
2->Manual with Machine Assistance
3->Machine with Manual Proofreading
4->Machine
I think this could default to 3 or 4, but since Machine translation is not allowed defaulting to 4 might cause confusion.
I'm not familiar with templates so I was hoping someone else would be capable of doing this.
--Asakura Nemu (talk) 08:55, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
- Web pages whose entire content is automatically generated by a program are not allowed in zhmoe, maybe you should consider the same standards.--KingChan / Fan of XY Production 02:58, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
- It appears I have not made myself clear. I manually translated this page in concern. What I'm saying is, I am not learnt in translation, and cannot ensure my translations are coherent. The meaning of this template is: the page was translated from another language, instead of being originally writen in the language of this pedia (English). Thus I am discussing the probability of creating a specific template to warn the users: this page was translated, and may have misleading language.
- I totally agree disallowing machine translated pages on this pedia. This is not a big problem, since we can adjust the parameters to disinclude 4. However, doing so would in fact encourage people to use 3 in the place of 4, and you can't even say they did not do anything. --Asakura Nemu (talk) 05:16, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
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On Categorization Policies
On the [help template], there is "Categorizing articles" in "Intermediate Editing" (which redirects to a page under U:Nostalgia who is apparently blocked). So I'm dropping a note here to memo that someone has to write a policy document on categorizing.
A few weeks ago I rebased Category:Userbox to Category:Userboxes. So I was thinking Categories that have a noun phrase as the central part of the phrase should be in plural.
I don't think zh has a Categorization policy either. Let's see if we can implement this on en first.
--Nochelux Iquinawir Illumina (talk) 12:23, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
The capitalization policy of categories has no coherence whatsoever. I'll give an example that I noticed.
Category:Pages_with_Materials_Awaiting_Translation follows article naming standards. Then, it claims to have two subcats that just capitalize the first letter without capitalizing the proper nouns: Category:Pages_with_chinese_materials_awaiting_translation and Category:Pages_with_japanese_materials_awaiting_translation. But then we do have another category Category:Pages_with_Chinese_materials_awaiting_translation that does capitalize proper nouns.
So we're essentially following 3 sets of capitalization methods in this simple example. It is urgent that we agree on one capitalization method. This issue was never brought up on zh or jp because they don't capitalize anyways.
--Nochelux Iquinawir Illumina (talk) 08:30, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
- Hi. Actually, a "category policy" or "category guidelines" page wouldn't be a bad idea. Also, I checked, and yes, unfortunately, ZhMGP doesn't have that kind of page either. So, how would that kind of policy or guideline document work? LiaMinina (talk) 20:12, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
- In fact there is a loose regulation on categories on Chinese Moegirlpedia, though a clear consensus have yet to be reached after a proposal with really mass discussions on it there.--6116G (talk) 09:28, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
- Not very detailed & quite idealized; I doubt there would be tens of thousands of CATs on moe zh if this regulation were really carried out. Plus, it doesn't address issues specific to EN, like pluralization and capitalization.
Nonetheless it would be a great place to start from; if we are to write a new guideline we'll try our best to keep it inline with this guideline. Just to ask, do you know how many votes we would need to get for such a guideline in order to send it into effect? There aren't many active editors on EN Moe; most Moe regulators don't visit this remote place that often either.--Nochelux Iquinawir Illumina (talk) 11:02, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
- According to regulations on votes and proposal, there seems to be no limits of the least votes, only of the least administrators (including the higher-level bureaucrats) attended of 2, as well as a simple rule of votes pros-over-cons of both mass and admins to pass a proposal. However operators (so-called staff in zhmoe) of the site have been moving into a much more centralized policy since late September, thus admins are now designated by operators instead of voted by mass, and votes of administratiors and patrollers have been doubled to 4 and 2 votes, separately. That means every single administrator holds more votes than us three. I think this template would help you go through most policies more easily.--6116G (talk) 14:42, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
Article deletion
Hello. I think that this article should be deleted since it's about a (mostly) controversial topic and people might sense "disturbing racist undertones" there. I believe Moegirlpedia should avoid getting into this type of trouble. Also, I believe that the term "非洲人" originated from the Chinese community and it is mostly used there, and their culture isn't the same as others, so I don't think would fit into the scope of English Moegirlpedia. Chinese Moegirlpedia covers many terms and slang that only Chinese people can understand... LiaMinina (talk) 16:24, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
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Article deletion (2)
Hello again... I want this article to be deleted, since too much of the text is copied from TV Tropes (specifically these pages). I believe the Chinese version of the article (from which I made the translation) had the same problem and it was deleted as well, since I couldn't find it. When I checked the article here, I saw that my translated text was too similar to the original articles on TV Tropes. LiaMinina (talk) 15:24, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
- In fact you can choose to restructure the content or write the article in a different way to avoid copyright issue (the reason Chinese version deleted), but since the page was created by you I think it's also OK to delete it. 6116G (talk) 16:12, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
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New draft proposal concerning Translation Moderator
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