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*Welcome to the Moegirlpedia,here is the Discussion board.This page is for questions about how to use or edit Moegirlpedia or other things about Moegirlpedia
 
  
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== Concerning files ==
  
*You can click on [https://en.moegirl.org/index.php?title=Talk:Discussion_board&action=edit&section=new '''here'''] to add a new topic
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I'm not sure about the current situation of files. It seems to me that they are directly uploaded to the english moepedia page, instead of shared with others language pages in moe commons. Would it be possible if we relink all files into moe commons? Many pictures on pages are unable to be shown. Eg, [[Girls' Frontline: Springfield]].
  
*For the Chinese discussion board, click [[zh:Talk:讨论版|here]].  
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Please correct me if I'm mistaken about this.
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Welcome to English Moegirlpedia's Discussion page!
 
  
You can speak freely!
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--[[User:Asakura Nemu|Asakura Nemu]] ([[User talk:Asakura Nemu|talk]]) 10:03, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
  
But don't use it as an excuse to attack other people's language.
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:All files are uploading to the moe commons, you can click "View on MoeGirl Commons" button in file detail page.--[[User:KingChan|虚研社箱推人/矢志不渝Cosecant]] ([[User talk:KingChan|talk]]) 02:47, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
  
Others, like us, are not perfect.
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::I would contend otherwise... Take File:Springfield_Private_dress.jpg as an example. It cannot be found in commons (yet, since I just uploaded it). P.S., [[Girls' Frontline: Springfield]] links to this photo (as can be seen in "File Usage") but the picture cannot be seen on the wiki page. Could you be so kind as to see if it is possible to fix it? --[[User:Asakura Nemu|Asakura Nemu]] ([[User talk:Asakura Nemu|talk]]) 03:29, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
  
Please respect other people's comments.
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:::I can see it now. Perhaps you did not upload this file correctly, or it may be due to network latency.--[[User:KingChan|虚研社箱推人/矢志不渝Cosecant]] ([[User talk:KingChan|talk]]) 06:15, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
  
Thank you for your cooperation.
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== English Version of moegirlpedia has DEAD ==
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== Proposing a template for translated pages ==
{{Saved|link=Talk:Discussion board/Saved/March 2017#English Version of moegirlpedia has DEAD}}
 
  
== Help needed. How to change the page's title?  ==
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About translated pages
{{Saved|link=Talk:Discussion board/Saved/March 2017#Help needed. How to change the page's title?}}
 
  
== Advice about setting New Bangumi Topic ==
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I've just committed a page [[Mesugaki]] <del>so that I can use it in my user page</del>. The problem now is, I suck at {{ruby|translating|English}}, and the article is barely readable, let alone coherent. So I stuck a [[Template:Langproblem]] in there.
{{Saved|link=Talk:Discussion board/Saved/May 2017#Advice about setting New Bangumi Topic}}
 
  
{{Saved|link=Talk:Discussion board/Saved/June 2017#Advice about setting New Bangumi Topic}}
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The thing here is, I don't think the template was especially designed for this. That was probably for simple language problems. So I was thinking if anyone could write a template that can be hung to demonstrate that the page was <i>directly</i> adopted from another language version.
  
== How should Japanese names be input in English moegirlpedia? ==
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I think it could contain the following message and parameters:
{{Saved|link=Talk:Discussion board/Saved/June 2017#How should Japanese names be input in English moegirlpedia?}}
 
  
== Can English moegirlpedia add visual editor and mobile pages? ==
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* A note telling readers that the page was directly translated;
{{Saved|link=Talk:Discussion board/Saved/June 2017#Can English moegirlpedia add visual editor and mobile pages?}}
 
  
== Advice about avoiding using nonstandard abbrs beyond talk pages ==
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* Parameter: language version (choices from zh/ja), defaults zh;
{{Saved|link=Talk:Discussion board/Saved/June 2017#Advice about avoiding using nonstandard abbrs beyond talk pages}}
 
  
== Touhou character template needed ==
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* Parameter: (optional) extern link to original page or name of original entry
{{Saved|link=Talk:Discussion board/Saved/July 2017#Touhou character template needed}}
 
  
== We should have better heimu/kuromaku effect ==
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* Parameter: translation method (choices from 1/2/3/4), where numbers expand as follows: <br>  1->Manual <br>  2->Manual with Machine Assistance <br>  3->Machine with Manual Proofreading <br>  4->Machine <br> I think this could default to 3 or 4, but since Machine translation is not allowed defaulting to 4 might cause confusion.
{{Saved|link=Talk:Discussion board/Saved/July 2017#We should have better heimu/kuromaku effect}}
 
  
== When the Japanese official English titles and the usual English titles of the same light novel are different, how should the pages be named? ==
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* Invitation to edit page
{{Saved|link=Talk:Discussion board/Saved/July 2017#When the Japanese official English titles and the usual English titles of the same light novel are different, how should the pages be named?}}
 
  
== For modern Japanese names, family names come first or last?  ==
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I'm not familiar with templates so I was hoping someone else would be capable of doing this.
{{Saved|link=Talk:Discussion board/Saved/July 2017#WFor modern Japanese names, family names come first or last?}}
 
  
== For moe anthropomorphism, should the letter ''g'' in the word ''girl'' be capitalized? ==
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--[[User:Asakura Nemu|Asakura Nemu]] ([[User talk:Asakura Nemu|talk]]) 08:55, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
{{Saved|link=Talk:Discussion board/Saved/July 2017#For moe anthropomorphism, should the letter ''g'' in the word ''girl'' be capitalized?}}
 
  
== Naming ==
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:Web pages whose entire content is automatically generated by a program are not allowed in [[萌娘百科:收录范围#不予收录| zhmoe]], maybe you should consider the same standards.--[[User:KingChan|KingChan]] / Fan of [[XY Production]] 02:58, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
{{Saved|link=Talk:Discussion board/Saved/July 2017#Naming}}
 
 
== I wander if there's a video game template ==
 
{{Saved|link=Talk:Discussion board/Saved/July 2017#I wander if there's a video game template}}
 
  
== Any guideline pages? ==
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::It appears I have not made myself clear. I ''manually'' translated this page in concern. What I'm saying is, I am not learnt in translation, and cannot ensure my translations are coherent. The meaning of this template is: the page was translated from another language, instead of being originally writen in the language of this pedia (English). Thus I am discussing the probability of creating a specific template to warn the users: this page was translated, and may have misleading language.
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::I totally agree disallowing machine translated pages on this pedia. This is not a big problem, since we can adjust the parameters to disinclude 4. However, doing so would in fact ''encourage'' people to use 3 in the place of 4, and you can't even say they did not do anything. --[[User:Asakura Nemu|Asakura Nemu]] ([[User talk:Asakura Nemu|talk]]) 05:16, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
  
Are there any guideline pages for enmgp? I can't find it, namely something like "Help:wiki tutorial"(zh-s:Help:wiki入门) and such. Needed for template construction. [[User:Varxo|Varxo]] ([[User talk:Varxo|talk]]) 01:16, 13 August 2017 (CDT)
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{{MAR|sign=[[User:Asakura Nemu|Nochelux Iquinawir Illumina]] ([[User talk:Asakura Nemu|Criticize]]) 8:36, 5 November 2023 (UTC) | time=20231105 |status=r|comment=[[User:6116G|6116G]] has already written this template. Issue resolved.}}
  
:So far, no. -[[User:Moegirlpedia Girl|Moegirlpedia Girl]] ([[User talk:Moegirlpedia Girl|talk]]) 07:37, 13 August 2017 (CDT)
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== On Categorization Policies ==
 
::Oh, that's relieving. {{Spoiler|No it's stressing.}} [[User:Varxo|Varxo]] ([[User talk:Varxo|talk]]) 08:25, 13 August 2017 (CDT)
 
  
== Widget port from zhmgp ==
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On the [[https://en.moegirl.org.cn/Template:Moegirlpedia_help|Moepedia help template]], there is "Categorizing articles" in "Intermediate Editing" (which redirects to [[User:Nostalgia/Category_tree|a page]] under [[U:Nostalgia]] who is apparently blocked). So I'm dropping a note here to memo that someone has to write a policy document on categorizing.
  
Requesting ports of widgets "GirlsFrontline", "SideBarPic" and "TopicNavBar" from zh-mgp(Chinese Moegirlpedia) for optimal use of some templates. [[User:Varxo|Varxo]] ([[User talk:Varxo|talk]]) 03:53, 13 August 2017 (CDT)
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A few weeks ago I rebased Category:Userbox to Category:Userboxes. So I was thinking Categories that have a noun phrase as the central part of the phrase should be in plural.
:Ask this question on zhmoe. Sysops rarely come to enmoe. -[[User:Moegirlpedia Girl|Moegirlpedia Girl]] ([[User talk:Moegirlpedia Girl|talk]]) 07:39, 13 August 2017 (CDT)
 
::I thought only admins (or people with high power) ''here'' are able to create widgets on ''this'' mgp? [[User:Varxo|Varxo]] ([[User talk:Varxo|talk]]) 08:35, 13 August 2017 (CDT)
 
Both SideBarPic & Widget:GirlsFrontline were not required. TopicNavBar was copied to Enmoegirl. --<img src="//img.moegirl.org/common/avatars/1/128.png" style="width: 2.5em;border-radius: 50%;box-shadow: 1px 1px 2px 0px rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.45);"/> <span style="padding:1px 2px;background:#bbd5ff;color:#16499e">Baskice</span>([[User talk:baskice|talk]]) 20:38, 14 August 2017 (CDT)
 
:Those two were intended to render the enmoe page of GF identical to that on zhmoe. Pages are still WIP, though. --[[User:Varxo|Varxo]] ([[User talk:Varxo|talk]]) 08:41, 15 August 2017 (CDT)
 
:Again there's a need for widget:BilibiliVideo. Things are missing here. :( --[[User:Varxo|Varxo]] ([[User talk:Varxo|talk]]) 21:52, 15 August 2017 (CDT)
 
  
== Do we need a IRC channel? ==
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I don't think zh has a Categorization policy either. Let's see if we can implement this on en first.
  
-(This user is [[User:Xctan|xctan]]!!!)[[User:Xctan2|Xctan2]] ([[User talk:Xctan2|talk]]) 07:26, 26 August 2017 (CDT)
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--[[User:Asakura Nemu|Nochelux Iquinawir Illumina]] ([[User talk:Asakura Nemu|talk]]) 12:23, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
  
:tan90°. zhmoegirl doesn't have it, either. —[[User:Honoka55|<img src="https://img.moegirl.org/common/avatars/200315/original.png?ver=58a905d4" style="width: 2.5em;border-radius: 50%;box-shadow: 1px 1px 2px 0px rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.45);"/> <span style="color:#FF6600">Honoka55</span>]]([[User_talk:Honoka55|<span style="color:#A560DF">Message me</span>]]·[[Special:Contributions/Honoka55|<span style="color:#A560DF">My contributions</span>]]) 22:22, 27 August 2017 (CDT)
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The capitalization policy of categories has no coherence whatsoever. I'll give an example that I noticed.
  
::If QQ counts as a "channel", we do. At least on a sectional basis. As I'm only working on the Girls' Frontline part on both zh- and en-moe, I know that there're at least 2 groups active.[[User:Varxo|Varxo]] ([[User talk:Varxo|talk]]) 04:49, 28 August 2017 (CDT)
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[[:Category:Pages_with_Materials_Awaiting_Translation|Category:Pages_with_Materials_Awaiting_Translation]] follows [[Help:Title_Naming_Standard/Rules_for_Capitalization|article naming standards]]. Then, it claims to have two subcats that just capitalize the first letter <i>without</i> capitalizing the proper nouns: [[:Category:Pages_with_chinese_materials_awaiting_translation|Category:Pages_with_chinese_materials_awaiting_translation]] and [[:Category:Pages_with_japanese_materials_awaiting_translation|Category:Pages_with_japanese_materials_awaiting_translation]]. But then we <i>do</i> have another category [[:Category:Pages_with_Chinese_materials_awaiting_translation|Category:Pages_with_Chinese_materials_awaiting_translation]] that <i>does</i> capitalize proper nouns.
  
:Judging by the single-digit (might be double sometime later but this is an unstable flag) number of active editors, I'm going ''against'' it. [[User:Varxo|Varxo]] ([[User talk:Varxo|talk]]) 04:49, 28 August 2017 (CDT)
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So we're essentially following 3 sets of capitalization methods in this simple example. It is <b><i>urgent</b></i> that we agree on <i>one</i> capitalization method. This issue was never brought up on zh or jp because they don't capitalize anyways.
  
== Request deletion of picture ==
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--[[User:Asakura Nemu|Nochelux Iquinawir Illumina]] ([[User talk:Asakura Nemu|talk]]) 08:30, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
  
[[:File:37942483697482666.jpg]], Reason: colored version already available——<img src="//img.moegirl.org/common/avatars/58712/128.png" style="width: 2.3em;border-radius: 50%;box-shadow: 1px 1px 2px 0px rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.45);"/>&nbsp;[[User:Thaiyj123|泰国婉姬🇹🇭]] ([[User talk:Thaiyj123|พูดคุย]]) 00:42, 7 September 2017 (CDT)
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:Hi. Actually, a "category policy" or "category guidelines" page wouldn't be a bad idea. Also, I checked, and yes, unfortunately, ZhMGP doesn't have that kind of page either. So, how would that kind of policy or guideline document work? [[User:LiaMinina|LiaMinina]] ([[User talk:LiaMinina|talk]]) 20:12, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
  
== Resurrecting(?) this encyclopedia ==
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:In fact there is [[:zh:MGP:分类指引|a loose regulation on categories]] on Chinese Moegirlpedia, though a clear consensus have yet to be reached after a proposal with really mass discussions on it there.--[[User:6116G|6116G]] ([[User talk:6116G|talk]]) 09:28, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
  
First off, (to a selfish extent), as an editor from zhmoe who focuses specifically on ''Girls' Frontline'' pages, I did a small search based on my personal... preferences. The search for the word "Moegirlpedia" on Yandex (in its Russian page) returns a GitHub-related page on top of the list, followed by zhmoe's app (and many other similar webpages). Though enmoe comes in the 5th, one ahead of zhmoe, the lack of an icon (and such) makes it basically invisible. Also, I did a search on Girls' Frontline, which not only showed Russian preferred searchwords such as ''... игра''(the game), but also a now-seemingly-defunct (and with way less info) GF wiki site, a (potentially rival) GF-wiki site(with moderately translated but inferior details in information) and such. Solely from a sectional editor(and translator)'s perspective, if worked properly, this site can provide better information to the online society.
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::Not very detailed & quite idealized; I doubt there would be tens of thousands of CATs on moe zh if this regulation were really carried out. Plus, it doesn't address issues specific to EN, like pluralization and capitalization. <br>Nonetheless it would be a great place to start from; if we are to write a new guideline we'll try our best to keep it inline with this guideline. Just to ask, do you know how many votes we would need to get for such a guideline in order to send it into effect? There aren't many active editors on EN Moe; most Moe regulators don't visit this remote place that often either.--[[User:Asakura Nemu|Nochelux Iquinawir Illumina]] ([[User talk:Asakura Nemu|talk]]) 11:02, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
  
Plus, some sections are (at least semi-)officially supported wikis, which could enable this wiki to provide accurate and in-depth information regarding the subject's lore, characters, etc. Moegirlpedia as a wiki itself is contributed to by various editors, but such editors are a particular shortage on this site, as: 1. This site has little to no reputation in the Chinese online community; 2. Some editors come from zhmoe/jpmoe but with ''below intermediate'' levels of English, making their works actually uncomfortable to read. This would create a scenario where a curious reader steps in only to find sub-par pages poorly translated, and shakes his/her head before leaving, and never re-visits again. This is detrimental to the wiki.
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:::According to regulations on [[:zh:MGP:投票方针|votes]] and [[:zh:MGP:提案|proposal]], there seems to be no limits of the least votes, only of the least administrators (including the higher-level bureaucrats) attended of 2, as well as a simple rule of votes pros-over-cons of both mass and admins to pass a proposal. However operators (so-called '''staff''' in zhmoe) of the site have been moving into a much more centralized policy since late September, thus {{spoiler|admins are now designated by operators instead of voted by mass, and }} votes of administratiors and patrollers have been doubled to 4 and 2 votes, separately. That means every single administrator holds more votes than us three. I think  [[:zh:T:萌娘百科政策文件|this template]] would help you go through most policies more easily.--[[User:6116G|6116G]] ([[User talk:6116G|talk]]) 14:42, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
  
Suggestions:
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== Article deletion ==
#Better language. Increase the number of ''reliable'' editors by openly recruiting and improving the translation quality of current editors.
 
#Better infrastructure. Use various means (templates, widgets) to make this wiki at least ''visually'' "moe-er" (or potentially to the level of zhmoe).
 
#More info. Attempt to match the amount of info of pages on this wiki to their respective counterparts on zhmoe.
 
  
This wiki didn't get created solely to get forgotten. --[[User:Varxo|Varxo]] ([[User talk:Varxo|talk]]) 09:02, 21 October 2017 (CDT)
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Hello. I think that [[Africans|this article]] should be deleted since it's about a (mostly) controversial topic and people might sense "disturbing racist undertones" there. I believe Moegirlpedia should avoid getting into this type of trouble. Also, I believe that the term "{{lang|zh|非洲人}}" originated from the Chinese community and it is mostly used there, and their culture isn't the same as others, so I don't think would fit into the scope of English Moegirlpedia. Chinese Moegirlpedia covers many terms and slang that only Chinese people can understand... [[User:LiaMinina|LiaMinina]] ([[User talk:LiaMinina|talk]]) 16:24, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
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Hello again... I want [[Archon|this article]] to be deleted, since too much of the text is copied from [https://tvtropes.org TV Tropes] (specifically [https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OurArchonsAreDifferent these] [https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/UsefulNotes/Gnosticism pages]). I believe the Chinese version of the article (from which I made the translation) had the same problem and it was deleted as well, since I couldn't find it. When I checked the article here, I saw that my translated text was too similar to the original articles on TV Tropes. [[User:LiaMinina|LiaMinina]] ([[User talk:LiaMinina|talk]]) 15:24, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
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:In fact you can choose to restructure the content or write the article in a different way to avoid copyright issue (the reason Chinese version deleted), but since the page was created by you I think it's also OK to delete it. [[User:6116G|6116G]] ([[User talk:6116G|talk]]) 16:12, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
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== New draft proposal concerning Translation Moderator  ==
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All editors, please be notified a new proposal has been submitted at [[Talk:Discussion_board/Translation_moderator]], according to regulations discussions about to take place.
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--<span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:11pt">[[U:Asakura_Nemu|<img src="https://img.moegirl.org.cn/common/avatars/470354/128.png?ver=1695197566" style="width: 2em;border-radius: 50%;box-shadow: 1px 1px 2px 0px rgba(11, 45, 14, 0.45);"/>Nochelux Iquinawir Illumina]]</span><span style="color:#33ffcc;font-family:consolas;font-size:8pt"> the Unexperienced Wikier</span> ([[User_talk:Asakura_Nemu|Criticize]] · Work on [[enmoe:Mainpage|EN Moegirlpedia]]) 20:10, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

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Concerning files

I'm not sure about the current situation of files. It seems to me that they are directly uploaded to the english moepedia page, instead of shared with others language pages in moe commons. Would it be possible if we relink all files into moe commons? Many pictures on pages are unable to be shown. Eg, Girls' Frontline: Springfield.

Please correct me if I'm mistaken about this.

--Asakura Nemu (talk) 10:03, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

All files are uploading to the moe commons, you can click "View on MoeGirl Commons" button in file detail page.--虚研社箱推人/矢志不渝Cosecant (talk) 02:47, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
I would contend otherwise... Take File:Springfield_Private_dress.jpg as an example. It cannot be found in commons (yet, since I just uploaded it). P.S., Girls' Frontline: Springfield links to this photo (as can be seen in "File Usage") but the picture cannot be seen on the wiki page. Could you be so kind as to see if it is possible to fix it? --Asakura Nemu (talk) 03:29, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
I can see it now. Perhaps you did not upload this file correctly, or it may be due to network latency.--虚研社箱推人/矢志不渝Cosecant (talk) 06:15, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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Issue has already been resolved on zh discussion board. The en site will retain its separate file system but users can use commons. ----Asakura Nemu (talk) 3:45, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Proposing a template for translated pages

About translated pages

I've just committed a page Mesugaki so that I can use it in my user page. The problem now is, I suck at translatingEnglish, and the article is barely readable, let alone coherent. So I stuck a Template:Langproblem in there.

The thing here is, I don't think the template was especially designed for this. That was probably for simple language problems. So I was thinking if anyone could write a template that can be hung to demonstrate that the page was directly adopted from another language version.

I think it could contain the following message and parameters:

  • A note telling readers that the page was directly translated;
  • Parameter: language version (choices from zh/ja), defaults zh;
  • Parameter: (optional) extern link to original page or name of original entry
  • Parameter: translation method (choices from 1/2/3/4), where numbers expand as follows:
    1->Manual
    2->Manual with Machine Assistance
    3->Machine with Manual Proofreading
    4->Machine
    I think this could default to 3 or 4, but since Machine translation is not allowed defaulting to 4 might cause confusion.
  • Invitation to edit page

I'm not familiar with templates so I was hoping someone else would be capable of doing this.

--Asakura Nemu (talk) 08:55, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

Web pages whose entire content is automatically generated by a program are not allowed in zhmoe, maybe you should consider the same standards.--KingChan / Fan of XY Production 02:58, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
It appears I have not made myself clear. I manually translated this page in concern. What I'm saying is, I am not learnt in translation, and cannot ensure my translations are coherent. The meaning of this template is: the page was translated from another language, instead of being originally writen in the language of this pedia (English). Thus I am discussing the probability of creating a specific template to warn the users: this page was translated, and may have misleading language.
I totally agree disallowing machine translated pages on this pedia. This is not a big problem, since we can adjust the parameters to disinclude 4. However, doing so would in fact encourage people to use 3 in the place of 4, and you can't even say they did not do anything. --Asakura Nemu (talk) 05:16, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
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6116G has already written this template. Issue resolved. --Nochelux Iquinawir Illumina (Criticize) 8:36, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

On Categorization Policies

On the [help template], there is "Categorizing articles" in "Intermediate Editing" (which redirects to a page under U:Nostalgia who is apparently blocked). So I'm dropping a note here to memo that someone has to write a policy document on categorizing.

A few weeks ago I rebased Category:Userbox to Category:Userboxes. So I was thinking Categories that have a noun phrase as the central part of the phrase should be in plural.

I don't think zh has a Categorization policy either. Let's see if we can implement this on en first.

--Nochelux Iquinawir Illumina (talk) 12:23, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

The capitalization policy of categories has no coherence whatsoever. I'll give an example that I noticed.

Category:Pages_with_Materials_Awaiting_Translation follows article naming standards. Then, it claims to have two subcats that just capitalize the first letter without capitalizing the proper nouns: Category:Pages_with_chinese_materials_awaiting_translation and Category:Pages_with_japanese_materials_awaiting_translation. But then we do have another category Category:Pages_with_Chinese_materials_awaiting_translation that does capitalize proper nouns.

So we're essentially following 3 sets of capitalization methods in this simple example. It is urgent that we agree on one capitalization method. This issue was never brought up on zh or jp because they don't capitalize anyways.

--Nochelux Iquinawir Illumina (talk) 08:30, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

Hi. Actually, a "category policy" or "category guidelines" page wouldn't be a bad idea. Also, I checked, and yes, unfortunately, ZhMGP doesn't have that kind of page either. So, how would that kind of policy or guideline document work? LiaMinina (talk) 20:12, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
In fact there is a loose regulation on categories on Chinese Moegirlpedia, though a clear consensus have yet to be reached after a proposal with really mass discussions on it there.--6116G (talk) 09:28, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
Not very detailed & quite idealized; I doubt there would be tens of thousands of CATs on moe zh if this regulation were really carried out. Plus, it doesn't address issues specific to EN, like pluralization and capitalization.
Nonetheless it would be a great place to start from; if we are to write a new guideline we'll try our best to keep it inline with this guideline. Just to ask, do you know how many votes we would need to get for such a guideline in order to send it into effect? There aren't many active editors on EN Moe; most Moe regulators don't visit this remote place that often either.--Nochelux Iquinawir Illumina (talk) 11:02, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
According to regulations on votes and proposal, there seems to be no limits of the least votes, only of the least administrators (including the higher-level bureaucrats) attended of 2, as well as a simple rule of votes pros-over-cons of both mass and admins to pass a proposal. However operators (so-called staff in zhmoe) of the site have been moving into a much more centralized policy since late September, thus admins are now designated by operators instead of voted by mass, and votes of administratiors and patrollers have been doubled to 4 and 2 votes, separately. That means every single administrator holds more votes than us three. I think this template would help you go through most policies more easily.--6116G (talk) 14:42, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

Article deletion

Hello. I think that this article should be deleted since it's about a (mostly) controversial topic and people might sense "disturbing racist undertones" there. I believe Moegirlpedia should avoid getting into this type of trouble. Also, I believe that the term "非洲人" originated from the Chinese community and it is mostly used there, and their culture isn't the same as others, so I don't think would fit into the scope of English Moegirlpedia. Chinese Moegirlpedia covers many terms and slang that only Chinese people can understand... LiaMinina (talk) 16:24, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Request accepted.
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--KingChan / Fan of XY Production 09:34, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

Article deletion (2)

Hello again... I want this article to be deleted, since too much of the text is copied from TV Tropes (specifically these pages). I believe the Chinese version of the article (from which I made the translation) had the same problem and it was deleted as well, since I couldn't find it. When I checked the article here, I saw that my translated text was too similar to the original articles on TV Tropes. LiaMinina (talk) 15:24, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

In fact you can choose to restructure the content or write the article in a different way to avoid copyright issue (the reason Chinese version deleted), but since the page was created by you I think it's also OK to delete it. 6116G (talk) 16:12, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
Request accepted.
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--KingChan / Fan of XY Production 09:35, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

New draft proposal concerning Translation Moderator

All editors, please be notified a new proposal has been submitted at Talk:Discussion_board/Translation_moderator, according to regulations discussions about to take place. --Nochelux Iquinawir Illumina the Unexperienced Wikier (Criticize · Work on EN Moegirlpedia) 20:10, 8 April 2024 (UTC)